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OT: American Politics

leaffan2005 said:
Yeah I don't have sympathy for people who are clearly contributing to the death of innocent civilians with their incompetence and political motivations. In a world where you can direct your anger at only so many people, you decide to do it towards somebody who is wishing ill on Rand Paul who has quickly risen up to the deplorable human category?

Contributing to the death of many makes you an accessory to murder in my mind. Whether you are doing it intentionally or willfully is irrelevant.

Also, when did Habsy become the moral compass of this board? GTFO of here calling people bad people or pointing out why they aren't married.
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No. You need to think about this when your mind is clear. The way you and zeke think won’t change what you detest, it will make them dig in deeper.

Be better than them. This is not being better than them.
 
So the states also have to compete with the federal govt for PPE supplies. Seems like the feds ARE in fact grabbing PPE supplies - but the federal govt isn't using them for doctors and nurses, but for its deportation police force:

 
Habsy said:
I can understand that but do you laugh at them for illness? I just can’t bring myself to do that. I didn’t laugh at Sanders heart attack or even Clinton’s fainting spells etc.

I think it’s just unseemly. Probably my upbringing, my mother would chastise me for something like that.
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He... doesn't even have any symptoms. He's not even going through the hell that you did, even after fighting against the ability for people like you to get tested. Instead he got a test with no symptoms at all.

If Bernie fought against the ability of Americans to have access to EKGs and cardiac enzyme tests before having his heart attack, I'd probably say that was karma too, yep.
 
leaffan2005 said:
Yeah I don't have sympathy for people who are clearly contributing to the death of innocent civilians with their incompetence and political motivations. In a world where you can direct your anger at only so many people, you decide to do it towards somebody who is wishing ill on Rand Paul who has quickly risen up to the deplorable human category?

Contributing to the death of many makes you an accessory to murder in my mind. Whether you are doing it intentionally or willfully is irrelevant.

Also, when did Habsy become the moral compass of this board? GTFO of here calling people bad people or pointing out why they aren't married.
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It really is so much effort wasted creating a moral framework to defend immoral people from poxes, curses, etc, etc.

Completely backwards imo. There is real human suffering and real humans that cause it.
 
hockeylover said:
He... doesn't even have any symptoms. He's not even going through the hell that you did, even after fighting against the ability for people like you to get tested. Instead he got a test with no symptoms at all.

If Bernie fought against the ability of Americans to have access to EKGs and cardiac enzyme tests before having his heart attack, I'd probably say that was karma too, yep.
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I have no issue with Karma. As they say, it can be a bitch.

I just won’t mock or laugh anyone with this virus. Even if they are asymptomatic they can spread it.

Sure he’s an ass for blocking many many bills that could help people but he could also infect the innocent. I fail to see the humor.
 
BTW, I dunno what it's like near you guys but I live across from a plaza and boy, is it packed every day.

Really won't be surprised if they step up the restrictions as our numbers rise.
 
MindzEye said:
It really is so much effort wasted creating a moral framework to defend immoral people from poxes, curses, etc, etc.

Completely backwards imo. There is real human suffering and real humans that cause it.
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What do you want from me man? I agree they have no moral high ground and have done many despicable things. I disagree that we should justify our own immorality because of it.

You believe whatever you want to, I just can’t cross that line.
 
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Habsy said:
Do you guys not see that you’re doing the very thing you detest in the GOP?
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Eh? I don't hate the GOP because they're willing to pass judgment on who they deem to be bad people, and take action against those people.

I hate the GOP because of who they deem those bad people to be. Completely wonky moral compass where the poor, immigrants, atheists, liberals, PoC, etc, etc are bad people for...reasons. Most of those reasons complete fever dreams like runaway religion, supply side economics, foam at the mouth nationalism, etc.
 
hockeylover said:
BTW, I dunno what it's like near you guys but I live across from a plaza and boy, is it packed every day.

Really won't be surprised if they step up the restrictions as our numbers rise.
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Streets are finally drying up today here. I went for a drive to get out of the house but didn’t stop anywhere.
 
MindzEye said:
Eh? I don't hate the GOP because they're willing to pass judgment on who they deem to be bad people, and take action against those people.

I hate the GOP because of who they deem those bad people to be. Completely wonky moral compass where the poor, immigrants, atheists, liberals, PoC, etc, etc are bad people for...reasons. Most of those reasons complete fever dreams like runaway religion, supply side economics, foam at the mouth nationalism, etc.
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Same response as above. I won’t justify immorality with more immorality.
 
Habsy said:
What do you want from me man? I agree they have no moral high ground and have done many despicable things. I disagree that we should justify our own immortality because of it.

You believe whatever you want to, I just can’t Cross that line.
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and that's cool but if we're being honest, that's a failing in you. You're able to identify that they are entirely corrosive, but you're not actually willing do or say anything about it.

That's not superior morality, that's just pure apathy. Protecting the ego from the realization that you believe yourself powerless (or worse, just unwilling) to do anything to stop actual human suffering.
 
Habsy said:
Same response as above. I won’t justify immortality with more immortality.
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Heh.

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MindzEye said:
There is nothing moral about not doing anything about evil. The word you're looking for is "passive".
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What is zeke doing about evil? Posting tweets that align with his vision of evil?

don’t vote for them is about all the average person can do.
 
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