Wayward DP
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There's levels to this shit. You're falling for the easy shit apparently, and blaming the Democrats for it somehow.
So we're not even going to bother looking at the veracity of the claims made on either side? Trump wants nuclear war, Pelosi wants no nuclear war, so compromise is the only way and we just have small nuclear war? C'mon man.
This issue is pure stupidity. A wall is a complete waste of money that doesn't address the issue, full stop. It's bad policy, why throw money at it, why compromise on it?
**** me you're stupid sometimes. At no point have I suggested that the other side shouldn't be heard. They should be heard right up until the point they start digging in their heels and demanding nonsense solutions to real problems. The wall is a nonsense solution to a complex problem. So why spend the money? What is the pro argument for the wall beyond "some people want it"?
Oh, ****ing spare me. Yeah, my opinion that policy should be rooted in some semblance in reality is clearly the problem, not that there are 10's of millions of people who are falling all over themselves to demand billions be spent on revenge fantasy because they get cranky every time they walk by someone speaking in spanish in 'Murica.
Compromise is essential when there are two serious ideas on the table, with a difference in opinion or ideology involved. This is not one of those situations.
No compromise on a wall? No, of course not. Again, doing something really stupid just to make idiots feel good about themselves is bad, full stop. You want compromise? Identify the problem (immigration reform), put forward real solutions to the problem, fund it as necessary. Compromise. You've completely fallen (I'm going to go with "willingly") for the horseshit language and false dichotomy being put forward by the right on this one. The positions aren't "wall" and "no wall". It's "wall" or "rational solution for the southern border".
Compromise with loons and tell me how that works out for you. Something tells me that you don't compromise with people who have nonsense ideas in your personal life. If the Republicans were advancing a rational solution for the southern border, something tells me that your country wouldn't be dealing with this. The thing telling me this is Democrats repeatedly voting for increased spending on the southern border to manage illegal immigration.
this is one of my favourite posts in a while.
I just don't get how people can look at this and say, 'but the Dems!!!!'
the wall is clearly and obviously a giant waste of money that will not do anything to tangibly improve border security. if border security was what this was really about, there would not be a fixation on a physical wall.