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Around the League 2019-2025 Edition

MindzEye said:
So if we do the DOPS math

Tom Wilson gets 14 regular season games (with reg season games worth roughly .5 playoff games when you try to compare regular season vs playoff suspensions) while being a 2 time illegal hit repeat offender at the time of this hit you're talking about. Nazem Kadri wasn't a repeat offender at the time of this incident (his last suspension was in April 2019) and got 8 playoff games (roughly the equivalent of 16 regular season games).
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Wrong again.

The DOPS gave Tom Wilson 20 regular season games, not 14.

"Wilson initialy appealed the ruling to the NHL, but it was upheald by commissioner Gary Betman.

At that point Wilson was eligible to appeal to a neutral arbitrator.

That neutral arbitrator — Shyam Das — is the same one that reduced the 27-game suspension for Nashville Predators forward Auston Watson (...) to 18 games.

In this case Das ruled that Wilson violated Rule 48 and illegally hit Sundqvist in the head, but he did not support the Department’s reasoning for a 20-game suspension."

George Parros gave a stricter suspension to Tom Wilson than to Nazem Kadri, and the repeat offender point you brought up can explain that in part. When Wilson appealed, Bettman did not flich and stood by the 20 games. No kid's glove, no preferable treatment.

"Since Wilson has already served 16 games of the original suspension due to the length of the appeals process, he will get back two games worth of salary — just a little more than $378,000"

Tom Wilson did serve a 16 games suspension in the end, equals to Kadri's ban according to the 0.5 playoff/season conversion rate, but if it wasn't for the involvement of the neutral arbiter allowed by the CBA, the DOPS would have had him served a "10 playoff games supension".

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https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/25266386/tom-wilson-suspension-reduced-20-games-14
https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/11/13/tom-wilsons-suspension-reduced-to-14-games-eligible-to-return-immediately/

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Thunder said:
Wrong again.

The DOPS gave Tom Wilson 20 regular season games, not 14.

"Wilson initialy appealed the ruling to the NHL, but it was upheald by commissioner Gary Betman.

At that point Wilson was eligible to appeal to a neutral arbitrator.

That neutral arbitrator — Shyam Das — is the same one that reduced the 27-game suspension for Nashville Predators forward Auston Watson (...) to 18 games.

In this case Das ruled that Wilson violated Rule 48 and illegally hit Sundqvist in the head, but he did not support the Department’s reasoning for a 20-game suspension."

George Parros gave a stricter suspension to Wilson than to Nazem Kadri, and the repeat offender point you brought up can explain that in part. When Wilson appealed, Bettman did not flich and stood by the 20 games. No kid's glove, no preferable treatment.

"Since Wilson has already served 16 games of the original suspension due to the length of the appeals process, he will get back two games worth of salary — just a little more than $378,000"

Tom Wilson did serve a 16 games suspension in the end, equals to Kadri's ban according to the 0.5 playoff/season conversion rate, but if it wasn't for the involvement of the neutral arbiter allowed by the CBA, the DOPS would have had him served a "10 playoff games supension".

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https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/25266386/tom-wilson-suspension-reduced-20-games-14
https://nhl.nbcsports.com/2018/11/13/tom-wilsons-suspension-reduced-to-14-games-eligible-to-return-immediately/

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So what you're saying is that the suspensions were roughly equivalent for roughly equivalent incidents in severity, but one guy was on his 3rd suspension for illegal hits in the previous 18 months and the other one had none?

That's what you're saying?
 
MindzEye said:
So what you're saying is that the suspensions were roughly equivalent for roughly equivalent incidents in severity, but one guy was on his 3rd suspension for illegal hits in the previous 18 months and the other one had none?

That's what you're saying?
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Kadri (not considered a repeat offender, because CBA) : 8 playoff games

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Wilson (repeat offender) : 10 playoffs games

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Narrative that Nazem Kadri is held to a stricter standard than Tom Wilson is wrong.
 
MindzEye said:
So Wilson gets one extra game for every career he threatened in the previous 18 months?
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Unfortunately, that's what it is.
I don't agree with it, and I believe the incremental discipline for a "repeat offender" should be more than that in that particular situation.

BUT, in the argument that concerns us, which is about Nazem Kadri being held to a stricter standard, well history shows that he was held to that same "one extra game for every career he threatened in the previous 18 months" standard when he was considered a repeat offender by the CBA :

November 15th, 2013 : Suspended 3 games for hit to head against Niklas Backstrom

March 18th, 2015 : Suspended 4 games for illegal check to the head against Matt Fraser
 
Thunder said:
Unfortunately, that's what it is.
I don't agree with it, and I believe the incremental discipline for a "repeat offender" should be more than that in that particular situation.

BUT, in the argument that concerns us, which is about Nazem Kadri being held to a stricter standard, well history shows that he was held to that same "one extra game for every career he threatened in the previous 18 months" standard when he was considered a repeat offender by the CBA :

November 15th, 2013 : Suspended 3 games for hit to head against Niklas Backstrom

March 18th, 2015 : Suspended 4 games for illegal check to the head against Matt Fraser
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You racist motherfucker.
 
Also, what in the hell is with the Canes being tied 2-2 with the Preds?

I figured Nashville was going to get steamrolled in that series.
 
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