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OT: The F*cking Science Thread

SundinsTooth said:
KB's feelings on science and religion aside, check out this guy's remarks....and keep in mind this man sits on the House Science Committee.


[video=youtube;ZBy3MbP4WDo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBy3MbP4WDo[/video]

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Wow... just wow.

Gotta love the 300 deer heads on the wall too.
 
If you are the devil - do you not think plan A would be to get the human race to turn its back on science and progress?
 
JohnnyHolmes said:
I don't know. Perhaps the astronauts from the Challenger or the Columbia could answer that better than me.
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The problem was the shuttle technology was hilariously outdated and inefficient. Mankind has still never lost a single person in space. All the deaths have taken place within Earth.
 
If you believe in the bible then you believe the devil will do whatever he can to make you doubt the existence of god. If you believe in science then you are less likely to believe the bible or in the existence of god.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
The problem was the shuttle technology was hilariously outdated and inefficient. Mankind has still never lost a single person in space. All the deaths have taken place within Earth.
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Hmm, I think a whole crew was lost in space....Soyuz 11 all died in space (well at least what we define as space).
 
SundinsTooth said:
Hmm, I think a whole crew was lost in space....Soyuz 11 all died in space (well at least what we define as space).
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I don't know if we would define Soyuz 11 as space deaths given that they died re-entering the atmosphere. In fact, the Soviets didn't even know anything was wrong (the spacecraft landed fine) until they opened up the chamber and found that it had completely de-pressurized.

Talk about a quick way to go.

Challenger is kind of interesting because the crew capsule on the shuttle was so well designed (reinforced aluminum alloy) the crew actually survived the entire sequence of events until the capsule struck the Atlantic Ocean. In fact, if you check some NASA videos of the event you can see the crew chamber fire off unharmed from the external fuel tanks.
 
If these folks truly believe in God why do they hate gays as they will only be a nuisance for a short time here on earth. (80 yrs compared to 80 gazillion years in heaven). Also, can't they just pray away the deficit?
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Challenger is kind of interesting because the crew capsule on the shuttle was so well designed (reinforced aluminum alloy) the crew actually survived the entire sequence of events until the capsule struck the Atlantic Ocean.
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My family used to spent our winters down in Florida, and my dad was a big NASA fan so seeing that disaster live on TV was a huge moment of my childhood......yet I never knew this fact until just now. That's crazy.


You kinda just blew my mind.
 
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[video=youtube;OqTmSFkBqkg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqTmSFkBqkg[/video]

[video=youtube;80ejP8qJsNo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80ejP8qJsNo[/video]
 
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Montana said:
My family used to spent our winters down in Florida, and my dad was a big NASA fan so seeing that disaster live on TV was a huge moment of my childhood......yet I never knew this fact until just now. That's crazy.


You kinda just blew my mind.
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Yeah, it's not very well-known. In fact, during recovery operations three of the seven astronauts were found to have initiated their external oxygen apparatuses (which was basically a back-up breathing unit), indicating that they were aware of the possible de-pressurization in the cabin. The other four likely passed out before they died.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
I don't know if we would define Soyuz 11 as space deaths given that they died re-entering the atmosphere. In fact, the Soviets didn't even know anything was wrong (the spacecraft landed fine) until they opened up the chamber and found that it had completely de-pressurized.

Talk about a quick way to go.

Challenger is kind of interesting because the crew capsule on the shuttle was so well designed (reinforced aluminum alloy) the crew actually survived the entire sequence of events until the capsule struck the Atlantic Ocean. In fact, if you check some NASA videos of the event you can see the crew chamber fire off unharmed from the external fuel tanks.
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No they died instantly in space when they detached....when they separated they had a complete failure in a valve that depressurized the capsule and asphyxiated the crew. It is known as the first case of a man dying in space.


Here is the Russian release

"At approximately 723 seconds after retrofire, the 12 Soyuz pyro cartridges fired simultaneously instead of sequentially to separate the two modules .... the force of the discharge caused the internal mechanism of the pressure equalization valve to release a seal that was usually discarded pyrotechnically much later to adjust the cabin pressure automatically. When the valve opened at a height of 168 kilometers the gradual but steady loss of pressure was fatal to the crew within about 30 seconds. By 935 seconds after retrofire, the cabin pressure had dropped to zero....... ...only trough analysis of telemetry records of the attitude control system thruster firings that ahd been made to counteract the force of the escaping gases and through the pyrotechnic powder traces found in the throat of the pressure equalization valve were Soviet specialists able to determine that the valve had malfunctioned and had been the sole cause of the deaths."
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Yeah, I wouldn't call Soyuz a space death. More like an atmospheric death. At least, it wasn't a deep space death which is what I was referring to originally.

They were only 104 miles above Earth at the time.
 
Pretty cool Voyager video:

[video=youtube;Na1mLpjxmYY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na1mLpjxmYY[/video]

[video=youtube;zqPB0l5FZP4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqPB0l5FZP4&feature=related[/video]
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Yeah, I wouldn't call Soyuz a space death. More like an atmospheric death. At least, it wasn't a deep space death which is what I was referring to originally.

They were only 104 miles above Earth at the time.
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Space death is space death...which this was. Deep space is something mankind hasn't even managed to explore, so that makes no sense.

For the record - space is considered anything beyond the 100 km asl. This was way over that line.
 
It just boggles my mind (well, not really) that the Ancient Aliens crew can't even identify the type of rock present at some of these sites correctly.

Calling sandstone granite and then claiming that ancient peoples would have been unable to work these materials, while we have evidence of trial and error attempts AT THE SAME SITE, including evidence of the simple but effective techniques at working the stones, is just pure ignorance.
 
No kidding and then to blatantly lie about the wrong stone? I mean diorite is hard but it's not impossible for ancient people to carve.
 
SundinsTooth said:
No kidding and then to blatantly lie about the wrong stone? I mean diorite is hard but it's not impossible for ancient people to carve.
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No kidding. In the very same series they repeatedly show, without irony, the infamous Pharaoh Khafre statue. It's one of the best examples of artisanship in the ancient world.

The stone employed by the masons? Diorite:

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