My wife agreed with you right after she told me to **** off.
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My wife agreed with you right after she told me to **** off.
Your wife is a wise woman... and clearly getting wiser.
As they say when married a long time, you have a lot of hallway sex, you tell each other to **** off as you pass by in the hallway.
No disagreement there... my angle are people who produce kids without really thinking about the strength of their own relationship first and the consequences of having children on the rest their lives. These aren't pets or kitchen appliances that get divided up and you move on. That child is forever caught in the middle of whatever relationship remains between the parents. Hopefully the parents remains friends and close to each other and the child generally grows up normal but too often or not there is animosity between parents that lingers on for years if child support and alimony is involved and if one parent moves out of town it becomes worse for everyone especially the child.
In Peterson's case he is another athlete with children with different mothers. He obviously travels for most of the year and then gets to spend time with his children as they are dropped off for awhile at his place during the off season. Not sure that is good for the child. I have no idea if he is still on good terms with the mother's of his children but that is not usually the case for many athletes who resent the fact that sometimes the woman got knocked up or that she is spending all the child support on herself.
Shawn Kemp has 13 kids with 9 different women although it has been speculated he has more than that. That's the extreme no doubt but a Hollywood or athlete lifestyle seems to have no problems producing kids and then splitting up.
I just looked up Peterson Wiki page and got this bit;
Even personally I have had friends growing up who announced one day that they were going to be a father and I said to myself I feel for that baby because there is no way that relationship is going to stay together. I also knew a few guys that grew up in a single family house. The ones who lived with their mother tended to be angry at life at would easily combust at nothing situations. The one guy I knew who lived with his father was scared at home but rambunctious when he left the house. Nice guy though and I clearly remember feeling sad for him when I was at his house that he didn't have the normal life I had.
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GrandWazoo
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Yes. Am I missing something? Was his intention other than just disciplining his kid? He went too hard on him and that's not ok, so that's poor judgment on his part, but does that make him a criminal?
Again, I'm not advocating that this is an acceptable way to discipline a child, but is there more to it that I'm not seeing?
GrandWazoo
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The wounds looks bad. There is no denying that he went too hard. He wouldn't be in this case if it was just red marks. Not to excuse him but you don't always see right away the extend of the injury when you're doing it. I'm more wondering whether its an isolated incident or this is a recurring pattern. I can excuse an isolated incident, but much less a recurring pattern.
well if it was good enough for our Lord and Saviour,,,,
CH1
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This Bud is for you Count. You thought the Ray Rice (and other incidents) did not matter to the bottom line. Well, mega sponsor Budweiser ain't happy.
Of course, one can say that Bud is just getting some free press out of it, but I will argue every thing counts when you're maintaining a billion dollar brand like the NFL.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/16/anheuser-busch-disappointed-concerned-dissatisfied-with-nfl/
Of course, one can say that Bud is just getting some free press out of it, but I will argue every thing counts when you're maintaining a billion dollar brand like the NFL.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/16/anheuser-busch-disappointed-concerned-dissatisfied-with-nfl/
I understand why companies do that, and yes it is their right, but I really have little sympathy for them. They hitch their wagons to every flavor of the month without really investigating them or doing any due diligence. Oh he is a good runner, oh ok here you go. Nike had no problem with Lance Armstrong for years and made a fortune off him despite a lot of evidence that he was doping. They didn't care as long as he made them money. Once it was obvious that wouldn't happen anymore, they cut him loose.
Nike and Radisson cared little about the fact Peterson didn't even know he had a kid in North Dakota who ultimately was killed (and face it not knowing you have a kid is alarming to some extent. Now of course, oh God what a badass, we are cutting strings.
Nike and Radisson cared little about the fact Peterson didn't even know he had a kid in North Dakota who ultimately was killed (and face it not knowing you have a kid is alarming to some extent. Now of course, oh God what a badass, we are cutting strings.
CH1
The Artist Formerly Known as chiggins.
every company freaks about their image...some are scared by the Olbermann's of the world who spent half his segment today berating sponsors like Pepsi who thus far have kept silent on the issue. Please, as if companies who sell liquid corn syrup are in the business for the social value angle.
Right after the Minnesota GM tried to explain why they are letting Peterson back to the field with the Radisson banner splashed on the background walls behind him. I guess he knows how Radisson feels about his explanation.
We'll see if anyone responds like Gary Bettman did when he told the press that the NHL has lots of sponsors to fill in if Via Rail didn't like how they dealt with Chara after trying to kill him at the Bell Centre.
Funny cause just yesterday I was channel flipping and came a cross the show "The Doctors" where they were doing a segment on Diabetes and children and stated that if you stopped your child from having one can of Coke a day it would save them from not putting into their bodies something like 61lbs of sugar per year.
Budweiser stated they are not satisfied with the moves the NFL has made so far which must be a message to Roger that he quit immediately or at least cut the $3M bill for a 30-second commercial at the Super Bowl.
Ummm.... yeah it actually does.
There are a lot of child abusers whose intentions are to discipline their kids... but "going too hard" is illegal and therefore makes them criminals.
GrandWazoo
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Spanking is not illegal, child abuse is. In between is a big gray line, at what point is it too far, what is too much? I think there is more education to be done in those cases than jail time. I just fail to see how jail time is going to help either side.
That being said, I don't know all the details of this specific case.