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OT: American Politics

zeke said:
https://twitter.com/dandrezner/status/821184324791898112
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Ok, so it starts off describing the conditions that lead to Nazi Germany and Hitler, so Godwin's law right off the bat.

So ignoring the utter stupidity of that, and pretending for a second that you didn't just go there, the second part discussed the supposed downfall if the American lead order due to Trump being president.

Now lets be clear, I agree 100% that trump isn't a suitable president. But if the international order cannot withstand 4 years of trump it was doomed to fail at some point or another. Every county has it's isolationist phase, it's brief withdrawal from the international order. France took it's ball and left NATO for example. So these things happen. Yes, it's different when it's the leader of the international order taking a leave of it's senses, but these 4-8 years of Trump will simply be the Trump era, nothing more, nothing less. The international order should continue on, if anything, strengthen by this, because others will begin to assert their leadership in the void that trump leaves. Europe should find it's voice, Germany should take their place at the head of that leadership, or France. The Brits or French should begin to assert themselves in NATO circles, and at the end of the trump era, if and or when the US is ready to reengage with international organizations they will accept the US with open arms because they will be stronger with the USA than without. I fully expect Canada and the EU to take the lead on the environment, and continue with the Paris accord without the USA.

Already we are seeing signs of nations willing to go on without the US, without Trump, and few signs of these organizations falling to pieces the way your twitter buddy seems to think they will. But then again, to you, the sky really is falling so nothing I just wrote will resonate with you, or prompt anything but a one line two brain cell response from you.

Hell, you don't even forward many of your own thoughts anymore, you're just a constant retweeter of doom. Outsourcing your critical thinking. Bravo.
 
Altair said:
Ok, so it starts off describing the conditions that lead to Nazi Germany and Hitler, so Godwin's law right off the bat.

So ignoring the utter stupidity of that, and pretending for a second that you didn't just go there, the second part discussed the supposed downfall if the American lead order due to Trump being president.

Now lets be clear, I agree 100% that trump isn't a suitable president. But if the international order cannot withstand 4 years of trump it was doomed to fail at some point or another. Every county has it's isolationist phase, it's brief withdrawal from the international order. France took it's ball and left NATO for example. So these things happen. Yes, it's different when it's the leader of the international order taking a leave of it's senses, but these 4-8 years of Trump will simply be the Trump era, nothing more, nothing less. The international order should continue on, if anything, strengthen by this, because others will begin to assert their leadership in the void that trump leaves. Europe should find it's voice, Germany should take their place at the head of that leadership, or France. The Brits or French should begin to assert themselves in NATO circles, and at the end of the trump era, if and or when the US is ready to reengage with international organizations they will accept the US with open arms because they will be stronger with the USA than without. I fully expect Canada and the EU to take the lead on the environment, and continue with the Paris accord without the USA.

Already we are seeing signs of nations willing to go on without the US, without Trump, and few signs of these organizations falling to pieces the way your twitter buddy seems to think they will. But then again, to you, the sky really is falling so nothing I just wrote will resonate with you, or prompt anything but a one line two brain cell response from you.

Hell, you don't even forward many of your own thoughts anymore, you're just a constant retweeter of doom. Outsourcing your critical thinking. Bravo.
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why do people treat Godwin's Law as if it came down from Jehovah?
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

Still find it funny this election happened a building to the North of one of the most Liberal conventions I've ever attended.
 
All Hail, The Great Leader

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This kind of stuff is Putin and Kim jongs playbook. Have people in your cabinet paint you as such a great person and man. This is ridiculous


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Hoss said:
This kind of stuff is Putin and Kim jongs playbook. Have people in your cabinet paint you as such a great person and man. This is ridiculous


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true but in fairness, he does know how to communicate with people, he got people who had no alignment of interests with him to vote for him, granted many tin pot dictators have had that ability as well
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

LeafGm said:
Not surprising, considering he's a Libertarian who wants to ditch supply management in a riding full of dairy farmers.
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Bernier killed in Alberta. I liked a lot of his ideas. Also think Chong is a solid red tory.
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

IrishWolfman said:
Guys, Brad Trost got 60% of the vote in the riding of Markham-Unionville.

The idea that social conservatism is somehow exclusively a white and rural phenomenon is at best incomplete, and at worst lazy political analysis.
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Asians are a pretty conservative demo.
 
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