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GDT #46: Big Game Tonight

LeafGm said:
He's basically the second coming of Rickard Wallin.

An older player who eventually developed into a scorer over in Europe, but against NHLers, there's exactly nothing about his game or skill-set that's remarkable or above-average. And if he's playing on the wing full-time, and isn't even capable of filling our #4C role, I really fail to see what the point is of keeping him in the lineup.

Ennis should be playing ahead of him once he's healthy, and right now I think there's little doubt that Trevor Moore deserves to play ahead of him.
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Wallin, Kontiola, Lindholm, Ozhiganov...the legacy of the unremarkable Euro free agent signing continues. at least Zaitsev's is the only dumb contract. not too much money in these found wallets so far.
 
It’s just so funny how differently I feel about the broadcasts. While the TB guys are better than most, they’re still super annoying to listen to and full on cheerlead for TB. The way he squeals “he scaoaoaores!!” when they put one in, and “he scores” when we do, is obnoxious. And then the quality of the video - grainy, miniature, dark. Just complete shit. It makes the game 50% less enjoyable. You guys are on drugs if you think SN and TSN aren’t infinitely better. Let’s not even talk about the intermission segments. Consider yourself spoiled to get to watch the local guys.

As for the game, I felt the teams were more or less equal, but Andersen was awesome. Super solid and just unbeatable in the last ten minutes. Surprised he’s not getting more praise.

I thought Willy had much more jump with Matthews, but Willy still just has zero touch, zero. And Matty looks really bad too. I don’t know what’s wrong with these guys.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
It’s just so funny how differently I feel about the broadcasts. While the TB guys are better than most, they’re still super annoying to listen to and full on cheerlead for TB. The way he squeals “he scaoaoaores!!” when they put one in, and “he scores” when we do, is obnoxious. And then the quality of the video - grainy, miniature, dark. Just complete shit. It makes the game 50% less enjoyable. You guys are on drugs if you think SN and TSN aren’t infinitely better. Let’s not even talk about the intermission segments. Consider yourself spoiled to get to watch the local guys.

As for the game, I felt the teams were more or less equal, but Andersen was awesome. Super solid and just unbeatable in the last ten minutes. Surprised he’s not getting more praise.

I thought Willy had much more jump with Matthews, but Willy still just has zero touch, zero. And Matty looks really bad too. I don’t know what’s wrong with these guys.
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I'm not sure I understand your issues here.

You're upset that the American home broadcasts favour the home teams? But you support the home broadcasts (SN/TSN) that basically do everything they can to minimize the achievements of the home team?

For clarity, there is no Leaf 'homer' broadcast as far as I'm concerned. SN actively throws the Leafs under the bus and creates drama every opportunity they get, and TSN, well a little more balanced with better analysts, isn't far behind. And despite the TB guys cheering for the Lightning, I still maintain that their assessment and commentary respecting the Leafs was a million times better, more balanced, and more rooted in objectivity than any of the drivel you'll see on SN (and to a lesser extent TSN - I enjoy the TSN broadcasts generally). Also, why would you ever watch the intermission segments? I find watching these either makes me dumber, makes me yell at the TV, or makes me drink. Don't you normally PVR games too?

And your eye test assessment of the game simply does not line up with what transpired on the ice. Andy made a bunch of good saves, but so did Vas. I agree with you on Willy, thought he really competed. But we basically contained and controlled the league's best offence at 5 on 5 all night - and the metrics strongly support this.
 
Tbay guys definitely pumped the bolts - and for good reason. They are the best team in the league.

But they were also very fair and gave alot of respect to the Leafs. And while they definitely mentioned it, they didn't act like the funk the Leafs have been in was anything other than one of the top teams in the league going through a slump. Unlike the Toronto media who has used the slump to count them out as contenders.
 
Wayward DP said:
I'm not sure I understand your issues here.

You're upset that the American home broadcasts favour the home teams? But you support the home broadcasts (SN/TSN) that basically do everything they can to minimize the achievements of the home team?

For clarity, there is no Leaf 'homer' broadcast as far as I'm concerned. SN actively throws the Leafs under the bus and creates drama every opportunity they get, and TSN, well a little more balanced with better analysts, isn't far behind. And despite the TB guys cheering for the Lightning, I still maintain that their assessment and commentary respecting the Leafs was a million times better, more balanced, and more rooted in objectivity than any of the drivel you'll see on SN (and to a lesser extent TSN - I enjoy the TSN broadcasts generally). Also, why would you ever watch the intermission segments? I find watching these either makes me dumber, makes me yell at the TV, or makes me drink. Don't you normally PVR games too?

And your eye test assessment of the game simply does not line up with what transpired on the ice. Andy made a bunch of good saves, but so did Vas. I agree with you on Willy, thought he really competed. But we basically contained and controlled the league's best offence at 5 on 5 all night - and the metrics strongly support this.
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I'm saying I hate the US broadcasts, and they suck in literally every aspect relative to the Canadian broadcasts. Unfortunately, we often don't get a choice over here, like last night, when only the US broadcast is available to watch. And again, while the TB guys are better than the Buffalo guys, for instance, they still stink.

Vas was good, Andy was better. I mean, they had almost 40 shots, and there were a lot of good stops he had to make. I thought he made it look easy because his positioning was absolutely top notch last night, but there were a lot of tough saves there.
 
Wayward DP said:
I'm not sure I understand your issues here.

You're upset that the American home broadcasts favour the home teams? But you support the home broadcasts (SN/TSN) that basically do everything they can to minimize the achievements of the home team?

For clarity, there is no Leaf 'homer' broadcast as far as I'm concerned. SN actively throws the Leafs under the bus and creates drama every opportunity they get, and TSN, well a little more balanced with better analysts, isn't far behind. And despite the TB guys cheering for the Lightning, I still maintain that their assessment and commentary respecting the Leafs was a million times better, more balanced, and more rooted in objectivity than any of the drivel you'll see on SN (and to a lesser extent TSN - I enjoy the TSN broadcasts generally). Also, why would you ever watch the intermission segments? I find watching these either makes me dumber, makes me yell at the TV, or makes me drink. Don't you normally PVR games too?

And your eye test assessment of the game simply does not line up with what transpired on the ice. Andy made a bunch of good saves, but so did Vas. I agree with you on Willy, thought he really competed. But we basically contained and controlled the league's best offence at 5 on 5 all night - and the metrics strongly support this.
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I'm saying I hate the US broadcasts, and they suck in literally every aspect relative to the Canadian broadcasts. Unfortunately, we often don't get a choice over here, like last night, when only the US broadcast is available to watch. And again, while the TB guys are better than the Buffalo guys, for instance, they still stink.

Vas was good, Andy was better. I mean, they had almost 40 shots, and there were a lot of good stops he had to make. I thought he made it look easy because his positioning was absolutely top notch last night, but there were a lot of tough saves there.
 
Your bias for all things Canadian hockey is showing on this one. Our broadcasts are junk.
 
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The regional US broadcasts generally do suck. The national broadcasts tend to be really good though.
 
It's a mixed bag obviously. I would rather stop watching hockey all together than listen to Boston's announcers, for instance.

I enjoy the NBC national broadcasts on the rare occasions I've caught them.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I'm saying I hate the US broadcasts, and they suck in literally every aspect relative to the Canadian broadcasts. Unfortunately, we often don't get a choice over here, like last night, when only the US broadcast is available to watch. And again, while the TB guys are better than the Buffalo guys, for instance, they still stink.

Vas was good, Andy was better. I mean, they had almost 40 shots, and there were a lot of good stops he had to make. I thought he made it look easy because his positioning was absolutely top notch last night, but there were a lot of tough saves there.
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this may be a case of 'the grass is greener', for both of us re: broadcast preferences. I think for those of us who live in the Canadian hockey media bubble, it's really nice to escape every now and then.

I do agree that Andy was good and made a bunch of tough saves. I don't think I agree that goaltending was the difference in the game however. Andy did come up huge in the closing minutes for sure though.
 
WellPlayed said:
Your bias for all things Canadian hockey is showing on this one. Our broadcasts are junk.
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Greg Millen in particular was awful last night, even by his usually low standards.

Just no worthwhile insights whatsoever, loves to push bullshit narratives and the guy frequently has zero idea what's going on with the play.
 
Habsy said:
The problem with Canadian regional is the color commentators suck.
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good lord are some of them absolutely atrocious.

Ferraro and Johnson I like. but that's about it. and those guys are only on TSN anyways.

Millen is the worst of the bunch though.
 
we're almost there.

Miller and the new guy are pretty good play by play guys.

Ferraro is a legit color man.

even the HNIC clowns are more annoying than awful.


it's just millen left now as the problem. he's gotta go.
 
He's so bad. Last night, a minute and a half in (before I switched to the Tbay feed) "As expected these two teams have come out absolutely flying!" - there had not been a shot in the game yet and not a single dangerous looking play. He had it in his head that they would come out flying and could not adjust to what was actually happening.
 
all he talks about are the goalies.

how they have no chance on any goal, and are unbelievable on every save.
 
Ya. His every 5 minutes of play goalie updates are a given.

And late in games, no matter what, without fail "Remember that save!!!"
 
zeke said:
we're almost there.

Miller and the new guy are pretty good play by play guys.

Ferraro is a legit color man.

even the HNIC clowns are more annoying than awful.


it's just millen left now as the problem. he's gotta go.
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for whatever reason I really dislike Gord Miller. would rather Cuthbert over him every day of the week.

and Hughson is awful, unless it is precious Canucks and he goes full fanboy.
 
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