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OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

Brad Stevens is one of the few execs who deserve the benefit of the doubt when making a deal like this, especially from fans and talking heads that have no time, interest or capacity for modern basketball analytics which suggest Brown is very much an overrated asset. That also completely ignores the players antics/comments/behaviour of late which suggests he might be more trouble than he's worth
 
What if I told you that Brown is massively overrated and owes most of his reputation to the analytic excellence of the team around him?

He's a matador on the defensive end, and only really useful as a volume scorer, which he's only moderately efficient as.

He's fine, but he's pretty similar to what prime Demar with a 35% 3pointer would have been.

Also, Paul George is better than you think. A really solid and efficient #3 scoring option on a good team who can still defend the other teams best wing scorer.

I have Boston winning this trade fwiw. Brown just isn't worth as much to NBA front offices who understand the analytics piece, as he is to casual fans who see 28 ppg, and a finals MVP he won despite being shit for most of those finals (check his shooting splits in those finals, lol... He owes Jrue a steak dinner for life)
 
He also quite publicly hates analytics. So being super opinionated while hating analytics probably goes over really well in the most analytics oriented front office in the league.

I'm sure this has never been a problem when the staff has tried to make changes to style of play or personnel deployment.
 
GEEMAN said:
Utah got more for a barely functional C who missed all of last year ..2 unprotected firsts ... 2 first swaps

Couldnt care less of the record , Celts got 25 cents on the dollar for an all star in his prime and locked up for 3 more years

Bucks got a fair haul for an aging freak providing some youth for now and the future
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Brown is overrated celtics shit.
 
MindzEye said:
He also quite publicly hates analytics. So being super opinionated while hating analytics probably goes over really well in the most analytics oriented front office in the league.

I'm sure this has never been a problem when the staff has tried to make changes to style of play or personnel deployment.
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Standard issue moron teams like the bulls hornets wizards nets all appear to be getting smarter too
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
Standard issue moron teams like the bulls hornets wizards nets all appear to be getting smarter too
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Natural evolution. Bad GM's that don't fuck with data make bad decisions, build bad teams, and then lose their jobs. Rinse and repeat until there aren't many or any execs left who don't use basic analytics in their decision making so when even those dumb teams hire, they hire smarter people by accident and the team improves.

We're still close enough to the NBA's data revolution that there are old school oriented execs left. Just not a lot of them and they're a dying breed.
 
The Washington Wizards are low key the most interesting team to me in the NBA this season.

I know what Trae Young is, and i dont think you can win with him as your best player, but he's never had a teammate like Anthony Davis before they have such contrasting skillsets.

Dybansta is probably a stud if not right away, and i really like Sarr/Coulibaly/George and i think Riley/Johsnon/Bub/Reese/Hardy are all interesting dudes too
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
The Washington Wizards are low key the most interesting team to me in the NBA this season.

I know what Trae Young is, and i dont think you can win with him as your best player, but he's never had a teammate like Anthony Davis before they have such contrasting skillsets.

Dybansta is probably a stud if not right away, and i really like Sarr/Coulibaly/George and i think Riley/Johsnon/Bub/Reese/Hardy are all interesting dudes too
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Interesting, but I don't think they're anything other than bad unless AD play 70+ games.

They have zero point of attack defence. The entire D is going to be built around funnelling the ball into AD-Sarr in the middle and it's going to be bad. Like, bottom of the league bad. Offensively they're probably going to be fun as hell though. Lots of shots for AJ, George, Johnson, Sarr, Carrington. But I think this is a group that is a few trades and a few years away from being good. They're very crowded in the 2-3 spots with actual prospects right now.
 
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