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2024-25 Hurricanes Prospects and Minors Thread

CanadaCanes said:
Perhaps a Primeau/Miftakov tandem in Chicago and call up the hotter guy when Freddy and/or Pyotr get the annual dinged up injured list spot...
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I think that's the general thinking, yes. If it was me, I'd tell 'em when camp opens that Freddie is 1A and everything else is up for grabs. Give the other three almost all the meaningful exposure and let their play sort it out.
 
So, that gives him three full seasons in the KHL before his window with the Canes opens. That's not all that unusual, and has worked pretty well for others ... especially forwards.
 
Did y'all see the announcement that Gavin McKenna, the top prospect in next year's draft pool, has committed to play at Penn State next season? This is possible because of the recent change in the rules that allows players who have played major junior in Canada to be eligible in American college hockey. With the money now available for college athletes, you're going to see some of this kind of movement and we'll see if this ends up being a trend. It makes sense for McKenna though. He's got nothing left to prove at the CHL level after a 129 point season with Medicine Hat and not only can he get paid at Penn State, but he can also play a much less taxing college schedule while prepping for the draft.

Oh, and this will impact Canes draft pick Charlie Cerrato to some degree. He could well get a glam up in the points tables if he ends up centering McKenna.
 
NoMich said:
Penn State is very loudly building a helluva hockey program.
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Pegula is spending money there instead of Buffalo.

Canes draftee Justin Pioirier is going the same route as McKenna, leaving the Q for Maine.

Timur Kol has been traded to Dynamo Moscow.
 
Be interesting to see where the paid major college athlete system goes. If it’s ultimately a paid position if you were to stay in school how could they say your time is up? Is eligibility discriminatory once we’ve eliminated the facade that these athletes are there for the education? It’s just another paid league but with one year contracts. Will the $$$ keep flowing in that way or will the fact that teams bow out of participating at least in some sports eventually makes it college sports just another minor league?
 
cmon3 said:
Be interesting to see where the paid major college athlete system goes. If it’s ultimately a paid position if you were to stay in school how could they say your time is up? Is eligibility discriminatory once we’ve eliminated the facade that these athletes are there for the education? It’s just another paid league but with one year contracts. Will the $$$ keep flowing in that way or will the fact that teams bow out of participating at least in some sports eventually makes it college sports just another minor league?
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We're in Year Zero of the economic system forced by the House Settlement so it's kind of impossible to say where we're headed, especially with non and lower revenue sports. I'm not sure anybody's talking seriously about relaxing academic standards and requirements but we all know that that stuff has always had an element of fiction to it, especially in football and basketball. Not at all sure how it's going to work for the other sports though, now that everything is more professional.

We're just going to have to wait and see, but I strongly suspect that sooner or later the revenue generating sports will end up doing their own thing on a semi-pro basis while the others revert back to something like the old days ... with less available scholarship money.
 
jeffbear said:
We're in Year Zero of the economic system forced by the House Settlement so it's kind of impossible to say where we're headed, especially with non and lower revenue sports. I'm not sure anybody's talking seriously about relaxing academic standards and requirements but we all know that that stuff has always had an element of fiction to it, especially in football and basketball. Not at all sure how it's going to work for the other sports though, now that everything is more professional.

We're just going to have to wait and see, but I strongly suspect that sooner or later the revenue generating sports will end up doing their own thing on a semi-pro basis while the others revert back to something like the old days ... with less available scholarship money.
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I posted an article in the Grab Bag thread about 2 brothers who lost their scholarships when UVa eliminated the diving team and NC State reduced their diving team to 1 diver. He left the team and hasn’t been replaced, so functionally they don’t have a diving team either. The article also noted that Utah eliminated their women’s beach volleyball team, Grand Canyon dropped men’s volleyball, and Washington State eliminated all field events from the track and field team.
 
Yeah ... Year Zero. And even with some advanced notice, everybody's figuring out revenue sharing on the fly. Which is REALLY tricky when you're used to having a budget to operate a non revenue sport and suddenly you probably don't. So do the Universities get out of the Olympic sports business altogether over time, or does it shift to a raise your own money adventure for the athletes? I don't think anybody really knows right now. But in the short run, athletes in non revenue sports are gonna get jerked around while it all gets sorted out.

And it's a potential nightmare for people who have counted on their kids getting at least partial scholarships for non revenue sports. I know families that have built their whole higher ed plan around getting their kids into niche sports where there's less competition for scholarship money ... that now may or may not exist.
 
Didn’t mean to take this off topic. It will be interesting to see how this impacts things like juniors or even euro leagues. It’s gonna be a tangled mess for a while.
 
Indeed. Back to Canes prospects ...

I doubt that Piorier will be the only Canes draftee who drifts from major junior to US college, but Carolina has been pretty hands off with those kinds of decisions unlike some other NHL clubs. It will probably be less of an issue with the Canes guys in no small part because of just how many of them are playing in Europe, for one thing. I do expect to see a number of CHL prospects at least investigating US college as an option. It's a different environment, but a nice one ... especially if you can get a bit of a paycheck on top of your room and board.
 
jeffbear said:
Indeed. Back to Canes prospects ...

I doubt that Piorier will be the only Canes draftee who drifts from major junior to US college, but Carolina has been pretty hands off with those kinds of decisions unlike some other NHL clubs. It will probably be less of an issue with the Canes guys in no small part because of just how many of them are playing in Europe, for one thing. I do expect to see a number of CHL prospects at least investigating US college as an option. It's a different environment, but a nice one ... especially if you can get a bit of a paycheck on top of your room and board.
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The Canes aren’t really drafting from major junior that much anyway. Filip Ekberg this year, Poirier last year are the only current prospects this could apply to. Anyone drafted in 2023 or prior would had to been signed to a contract already. Before Poirier, the last major junior draftees were Robert Orr and Bryce Montgomery in 2021. Montgomery turned pro, Orr wasn’t signed and played at the University of PEI last year.
 
Yeah, I still think that's more circumstance than preference, since the Russian kids are still off of the boards of several teams which makes them good value. But still, Carolina has been ridiculously Europe-centered for several draft classes now.
 
Daily Faceoff has a review of our prospects. They note the biggest strength is defense and the biggest weakness is center, neither of which should surprise us. But a lot of the defensive prospects are still in Europe. By their standards, Nikishin is almost too old to be considered a prospect. They have 3 guys from this year’s draft, Ryabkin, Limatov and Frolov at 6 - 8.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

2025-26 NHL Prospect Pool Breakdown: Carolina Hurricanes’ Top 10

The Hurricanes have always bet high on skill – and they seem to love their Europeans.
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Noel Gunler signed his qualifying offer, he’ll get $813,750 in the NHL and $80k in the AHL. The Canes also signed dman Gavin Bayreuther to a 1 year, 2 way contract. He’ll get $775k in the NHL, $140k in the AHL and a guarantee of $150k. He‘s 31 years old and played last season with Lausanne in the Swiss League. But he played parts of 8 seasons in the AHL and 122 NHL games for Dallas and Columbus between 2016-24 before heading to Europe.
 
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