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2025-2026 Off Season Thread - The Rehappening

We've got 3 forwards now that will hit, Knies, Joshua and Lorentz - almost one on each line.
 
Joshua is the type of sneaky good guy you get one a 1.5-2m bargain deal to bottom out your roster.

Being a top heavy team that just lost its leading scorer last year and replacing them with an iffy second liner and 3rd/4th line slop sucks anus.
 
There's probably two more impact moves to be made, plus a Cowan addition.

While we lost a top of the lineup guy (who none of you were crying about losing due to his lack of playoff prowess), we are markedly improving the bottom six in my view.

If DJ spins his records like he did a couple of seasons ago, he earns his money. We should fairly discount last year's importance due to the illness and lack of camp and falling behind. I'm kind of optimistic about it since my memories of him are 100% from that one playoffs. Yeah, wish they had retained something, but it's certainly not outlandish to believe that he might earn the salary regardless.
 
Joshua is the type of sneaky good guy you get one a 1.5-2m bargain deal to bottom out your roster.

Being a top heavy team that just lost its leading scorer last year and replacing them with an iffy second liner and 3rd/4th line slop sucks anus.
This is basically it, nice player that can supply something we need, and it's unrealistic to expect everybody in your bottom 6 to play for league minimum, but this guy should cost $2m. At least he should be useful, with the cap going up we can absord that extra milli, especially if Tre can manage to move out Kampf and/or Jarny.
 
Joshua is the type of sneaky good guy you get one a 1.5-2m bargain deal to bottom out your roster.
He might've been happy actually to sign a deal like that during that season but "lucked out" in having a strong enough postseason (contract year) to raise his asking price.
 
TORONTO — To best understand why the Toronto Maple Leafs traded for Dakota Joshua out of Vancouver Thursday evening, you must first revisit the team’s 2025 playoff demise and the greatest reason why they couldn’t get past the Florida Panthers.
No, it wasn’t because Sam Bennett chicken-winged Anthony Stolarz into the ambulance or because Mitch Marner and Auston Matthews combined for two goals in seven games. (Though neither of those factors helped the cause.)
The most concerning and important swing of the second-round showdown took place on the third line.
Florida rolls out the best one in hockey; Toronto was still searching for one.
While Matthews and John Tavares played tug-o-war with Aleksander Barkov and Bennett, the Panthers’ dynamic trio of Brad Marchand, Anton Lundell and Eetu Luostarinen feasted like kings.
Old Marchand and the young Finns led all lines in that series with a whopping 20 combined points and combined plus-17 rating, all while chipping in on special teams and spelling off Barkov for a chunk of the Matthews matchups.
Straight up, that group dominated. Then went out and tilted the ice against Carolina and in the Stanley Cup Final over Edmonton.
Enter left wing Joshua.
Enter centreman Nicolas Roy.
Enter the idea that Brad Treliving’s stated goal of acquiring a top-six forward to replace some of Marner’s contributions also comes with a subplot of developing a legitimate, two-way, hard-to-play-against third line for the post-season.
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Originally drafted by the Maple Leafs with the 128th choice of the 2014 draft, the 6-foot-3, 206-pound Joshua is chiselled in the mold of Treliving and Craig Berube’s bottom-six dream forwards.
The Dearborn, Michigan, native is big and strong. He chucks his body around.
He doesn’t require sheltering; as a Canuck, Joshua started 59.6 per cent of his shifts in the D-zone
And most important: He elevates come playoff time.
Vancouver’s 2024 mini run served as Joshua’s coming-out party and the reasoning behind the biggest contract of his life (four years, $13 million), which now goes on Toronto’s books through 2027-28.
He scored four goals and four assists (all even strength) in 13 post-season games while throwing 74 hits and stealing five pucks.
The Canucks just traded a fan favourite for a 2028 fourth-rounder and $3.25 million in cap space they’d prefer to use on a centre.
The summertime addition of the 29-year-old Joshua — like Roy and Matias Maccelli before him — is another small step toward spreading responsibility, scoring, and money among the formerly top-heavy Leafs forward corps.
All three new guys make at least $3 million, but their combined salary still falls under Marner’s $12 million in Vegas.
The Joshua trade signals balance and hints that Berube’s strategy will be to sic Roy and Joshua and a right winger TBD (Bobby McMann perhaps?) against some of the opposition’s top offensive players to free up Matthews and Tavares more offensively.
Surely, Berube — who coached Joshua as a rookie in St. Louis and has been entrusted by MLSE president Keith Pelley to have a meaningful voice in roster construction — is bullish on the player’s hard compete level and soft hands (he scored 18 goals in 2023-24).
“At the end of the day, managers manage and coaches coach, but I believe — and maybe other people do it differently — that you have to have a close relationship with your coach. You have to get his input. You have to know what he likes,” says the likeminded Treliving.
“I look at it as a partnership. We are partners, and that is the way it works best.”
The deal is also very much a bet on an offensive bounce-back (ditto Maccelli), and an off-season of full health and regular training should result in a stronger athlete.
Joshua missed 2024’s training camp and the first month of last season while undergoing treatments for testicular cancer.
“Dakota went through a lot last season before the year even started, and we were very impressed in how he handled such a difficult off-ice situation,” Canucks GM Patrik Allvin said in a statement. “Once healthy, he tried hard to help the team in many ways, and we want to wish him the best moving forward in Toronto.”
The best case for Toronto is that Joshua joins Roy, energizes the Maple Leafs’ depth, boosts the PK, and finally gives the team a third line worthy of trust.

 
I like the idea of a Joshua-Roy 3rd line.

We’ve always had guys that either suck offensively and are soft (Krok/Kampf/Holmberg) or have to be sheltered heavily (Domi/Robby/McMann/Patches).

These guys can both take awful usage, come out above water possession, score 15 goals and be a pain in the ass to play against. Joshua is one of the most physical players in the league.

That wildly changes the lineup from having a Patches-Domi-McMann line that can’t play against any of Floridas top 3 lines, or a Laughton/Kampf/Krok/Lorentz line that can take the matchups but can’t score anything.

It means you don’t have to burry Matthews with dzone draws and can make the JT-Nylander line the sheltered one.

And they still have the cap space to add a top line forward.
 
I like the idea of a Joshua-Roy 3rd line.

We’ve always had guys that either suck offensively and are soft (Krok/Kampf/Holmberg) or have to be sheltered heavily (Domi/Robby/McMann/Patches).

These guys can both take awful usage, come out above water possession, score 15 goals and be a pain in the ass to play against. Joshua is one of the most physical players in the league.

That wildly changes the lineup from having a Patches-Domi-McMann line that can’t play against any of Floridas top 3 lines, or a Laughton/Kampf/Krok/Lorentz line that can take the matchups but can’t score anything.

It means you don’t have to burry Matthews with dzone draws and can make the JT-Nylander line the sheltered one.

And they still have the cap space to add a top line forward.
Well said. I’m liking it more and more as it sinks in. He’s clearly capable of replicating the prior season and probably would have last year if things were normal.

Having a legit crash and bang guy who is good defensively and can chip in 15 goals is good value if we get it. His nonstop hustle and hitting was what I really loved in that playoff performance. That he was actually producing too was great.
 
If the cap hit was like 1M less, or Kampfkrok was already dumped i think most people would be fine with this. Not like masturbating fine, but fine.
$1m if he’s a bust and has to be buried, sure. If he’s just a winger version of Roy who can produce the same, why would his almost identical salary be a sore spot?

Everyone is fearing the bust scenario instead of the best scenario, which is the more likely one of the two.
 
$1m if he’s a bust and has to be buried, sure. If he’s just a winger version of Roy who can produce the same, why would his almost identical salary be a sore spot?

Everyone is fearing the bust scenario instead of the best scenario, which is the more likely one of the two.
I mean it seems like there is zero world he's a bust, he's obiously an effective bttom 6er to some degree that the coach likes, just how much offense is there.
 
I'm not sure I understand the hand wringing about the contract. What similar player signed for $1-2 mill this offseason? Jeannot got 5 years $3.4. Fredric got 8 years $3.8. And I would argue he is better than both if he retuns to form.

2 years ago Dom had his value at $5.4 mill. AFPs projected exactly what he got. The forwards that signed in the 1-2 mill range include Taylor Raddish, Justin Brazeau, Adam Gaudette, Issac Lundstrom, Pontus Holmberg, Connor Dewar, Steven Lortentz, Radek Faksa.

There is risk obviously, thats why you only have to trade a 4th in a fake year. But they are betting on a realistic upside that none of those types of guys have.
 
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