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Around the League 2019-2025 Edition

LeafGm said:
On the upside, the Canucks might not be able to play in BC, and may be forced to temporarily relocate to a province with a more respectable time zone.
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Quebec City would be the obvious choice. NHL ready arena and Covid friendly government.
 
Habsy said:
You do realize anything can happen in a sprint season with no exhibition games right?

That said, it should benefit rosters without heavy turnover more. Ottawa and Montreal will have many new faces.

Waiting for the excuses should the Leafs not finish first.
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goaltending by FI
blueline by media
 
Habsy said:
Quebec City would be the obvious choice. NHL ready arena and Covid friendly government.
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Yeah, I had that thought. The province and that arena would welcome them with open arms, I’d think.

Though I imagine the Canucks would probably prefer to play in a city closer to their own time zone, for the sake of their fans/TV audience.
 
They could use any facility if there’s no fans in the stands. The Charlestown Chiefs arena would work.
 
LeafGm said:
Yeah, I had that thought. The province and that arena would welcome them with open arms, I’d think.

Though I imagine the Canucks would probably prefer to play in a city closer to their own time zone, for the sake of their fans/TV audience.
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with covid, does it matter if game is watched at 5pm anymore? Lol

I would kinda rather leafs play at 5 or 6pm now that I’m already home
 
Habsy said:
They’re going to try to win rolling 4 second lines. Wear the opponent down and pull it out in the third. Sort of like football.
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Going to be hard to do that with 2 2nd lines.

We can call Jk, Anderson, byron, Lehtonen, etc "2nd liners" but that feels a whole lot like trying to explain away a lack of forward talent by just making shit up.
 
Habsy said:
Like The Diques and Habs
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when?
from wikipedia
sounds like a wild rivalry

Incidents​

One well-known incident at an Islanders/Philadelphia Flyers game in 2003 turned an innocent holiday promotion at Nassau Coliseum into an on-ice shoving match between Rangers and Islanders fans in Santa suits.[8]

As of January 2019, the Rangers have beaten the Islanders 146 times while the Islanders have beaten the Rangers 144 times. In the playoffs, however, the Islanders hold the lead with a 20–19 record, and have won five of the eight playoff series between the two teams.
 
MindzEye said:
Going to be hard to do that with 2 2nd lines.

We can call Jk, Anderson, byron, Lehtonen, etc "2nd liners" but that feels a whole lot like trying to explain away a lack of forward talent by just making shit up.
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If you lower the bar enough that the threshold for calling a guy a legit top-6 forward is scoring at a 40-point pace in multiple recent seasons, then you could argue that Montreal has five such players on their roster.

You could bump it up to six if you think Nick Suzuki is likely to reproduce or improve on the 47-point pace he put up as a rookie last year (I expect he will).

If you take the Bergevin view that paying Josh Anderson like a second liner makes it so, in spite of him having produced at a 40-point pace once in his career at 26 years of age, and coming off a 4-points-in-26-games season, that gets you to seven guys.

To get it up past that number, you’d have to assume that Kotkaniemi’s going to take a quantum leap forward, or that older guys like Byron, Lekhonen and Armia have another offensive gear they haven’t yet discovered but will this season.

So yeah, seems like a wee bit of a stretch.
 
MindzEye said:
Going to be hard to do that with 2 2nd lines.

We can call Jk, Anderson, byron, Lehtonen, etc "2nd liners" but that feels a whole lot like trying to explain away a lack of forward talent by just making shit up.
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They have 2 20g men on the fourth line. 20g guys on the other lines. It’s more than two lines but we’ll once again agree to disagree.

Aren’t you tired of pumping the Leaf tires? They’ve proven nothing yet all I read is how awesome they are and how every other team is third liners.
 
LeafGm said:
If you lower the bar enough that the threshold for calling a guy a legit top-6 forward is scoring at a 40-point pace in multiple recent seasons, then you could argue that Montreal has five such players on their roster.

You could bump it up to six if you think Nick Suzuki is likely to reproduce or improve on the 47-point pace he put up as a rookie last year (I expect he will).

If you take the Bergevin view that paying Josh Anderson like a second liner makes it so, in spite of him having produced at a 40-point pace once in his career at 26 years of age, and coming off a 4-points-in-26-games season, that gets you to seven guys.

To get it up past that number, you’d have to assume that Kotkaniemi’s going to take a quantum leap forward, or that older guys like Byron, Lekhonen and Armia have another offensive gear they haven’t yet discovered but will this season.

So yeah, seems like a wee bit of a stretch
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Not the first time the Habs get underestimated here. Won’t be the last either.
 
Habsy said:
Not the first time the Habs get underestimated here. Won’t be the last either.
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Not sure where I’m underestimating the Habs in that post.

All I did was set a pretty low bar for who you could reasonably call a “second liner” at the NHL level, and then had a look at the actual numbers Hab forwards have produced to see who clears that bar.
 
I remember the Avs/Red Wings rivalry from when I was growing up as being on another level. Of course, having Claude Lemieux on a roster helps...
 
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