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Around the League 2019-2026 Edition

MyNameIsJonas said:
We also have no idea how the conversations between the owner/gm/player even took place.

Most guys would feel uncomfortable telling their owner no, if asked if they were okay hiring a certain coach, especially with a teammate in their ear eager to suck the new coach's dick.

The fact an owner feels the need to ask his players about a coach should be enough of a red flag to never fucking hire him
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Yep. If the team’s owner, GM and star players are all horny to hire this guy, how many players are going to feel comfortable standing up and telling those people, “actually, this is not OK”?

It’d be a vanishingly small list and none of the kind of players Babcock is historically likeliest to make the targets of his abuse are going to be on it.

This is basically one of the exact kind of situations a union is supposed to exist for.
 
MindzEye said:
Eh, all of the oiler players have labour rights, not just the few that ownership cares enough about to consult on coaching changes.

If Babcock violated established codes of professional conduct in Columbus, he needs to face whatever penalties are approved of by the agreements between the league and PA. He doesn't get to dip out on accountability just because he walked away from the job he was doing when he committed the infractions.

Especially...fucking especially when he is going to spend the next 24-36 months standing in front of cameras talking about what makes good men, accountability, and all the rest of his folksy bullshit. Fuck him, he should have to face the music for what he did.
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There is a bunch of Ifs in your theories. We don’t know anything because there was in fact no investigation.

We had a guy who oversaw a whole sexual abuse scandal in Chicago allowed to Coach again in Anaheim. This is a nothing burger comparatively regardless of what the investigation reveals
 
AH$$$ said:
There is a bunch of Ifs in your theories. We don’t know anything because there was in fact no investigation.

We had a guy who oversaw a whole sexual abuse scandal in Chicago allowed to Coach again in Anaheim. This is a nothing burger comparatively regardless of what the investigation reveals
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Dude got fired in Columbus before he even coached a game. What do you think happened?
 
AH$$$ said:
There is a bunch of Ifs in your theories. We don’t know anything because there was in fact no investigation.
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That's kind of the point mate. There have been allegations, and Babcock chose to walk away rather than face them at the time. He needs to face them before he coaches another NHL team.

AH$$$ said:
We had a guy who oversaw a whole sexual abuse scandal in Chicago allowed to Coach again in Anaheim. This is a nothing burger comparatively regardless of what the investigation reveals
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Eh, I'm not going to defend the NHL in it's decisions. It's a regressive as fuck organization that only exists to serve the interest of 32 billionaires who aren't used to being told no. But the response to them being shit at upholding professional conduct requirements isn't just do away with the conduct requirements.
 
Pwner said:
Dude got fired in Columbus before he even coached a game. What do you think happened?
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I in fact don’t know what happened. Do you ?

I am sure it wasn’t rosy what happened but not as bad as Quenneville and Bowman’s.

All I am saying is that the story is getting hay because of the media. As usual they are stirring the pot.
 
AH$$$ said:
I in fact don’t know what happened. Do you ?

I am sure it wasn’t rosy what happened but not as bad as Quenneville and Bowman’s.

All I am saying is that the story is getting hay because of the media. As usual they are stirring the pot.
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Is it normal for coaches to get fired before coaching a game?

If not, then something happened that led to his termination.

And we can surmise that something bad happened for there to have been an investigation and firing.

We know from ex-players and stories that have been leaked that he is an abusive asshole who embarrasses his players and staff, and supposedly, this led to a player (Franzen) developing PTSD and having a nervous breakdown during a playoff series.

But he still kept his job, but in Columbus, he got fired. Soooooooooooooooo
 
AH$$$ said:
I in fact don’t know what happened. Do you ?

I am sure it wasn’t rosy what happened but not as bad as Quenneville and Bowman’s.

All I am saying is that the story is getting hay because of the media. As usual they are stirring the pot.
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the story is getting hay because multiple players in 3 different organizations say he acted like a psychopath and the players association is demanding an investigation before he's hired again, not sure how that's a media creation.
 
Babcock certainly didn't appear to fight to keep his job in Columbus, so whatever the accusations were that allowed Columbus to walk away form the contract - Babcock also agreed to walk away.

Babcock is a shitty person, no doubt, but you would think that there would have been a way to have this kept behind closed doors instead of playing out publicly like this.
 
hockeylover said:
the story is getting hay because multiple players in 3 different organizations say he acted like a psychopath and the players association is demanding an investigation before he's hired again, not sure how that's a media creation.
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Yep. If anything the media was letting this slide until the PA came out and said nuh-uh we want our investigation first
 
BG said:
Babcock certainly didn't appear to fight to keep his job in Columbus, so whatever the accusations were that allowed Columbus to walk away form the contract - Babcock also agreed to walk away.

Babcock is a shitty person, no doubt, but you would think that there would have been a way to have this kept behind closed doors instead of playing out publicly like this.
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I dunno, it kinda sounds like the opposite to me… that people tried to prevent the actual allegations that forced him to resign from coming out and that reporters know the nature of them now and aren’t saying.
 
hockeylover said:
the story is getting hay because multiple players in 3 different organizations say he acted like a psychopath and the players association is demanding an investigation before he's hired again, not sure how that's a media creation.
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Three orgs did hire him though knowing his shittiness.

The OBC is glossing over any of it. I don’t really care for Babcock but certain parts of the hockey world want him in it. That’s all that I am saying.
 
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