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Canes Prospects Development Camp

Yeah ... Tolchinsky's skill level means that you'll never be able to judge him fairly other than under live fire in 6 on 6 game conditions. There have been plenty of drill monsters in this franchise's history than have proven to only be average NHL players at best ... see McBain, Jamie and Tanabe, David for but two examples. So don't get too excited on the little Russian until he's playing in real games.

Not that he's not terrific ... God, but I hope he is.
 
cmaleski2 said:
Luke had an article in the N&O today that made Pesce sound like he could be on the cusp of making the team (well sort of):

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/luke-decock/article26615740.html

If Pesce, Hanifin, and Fleury all work out you got yourself a young up and coming blueline and a whole lot of depth still with our other D prospects.
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I love Pesce's size and it sounds like he is on the cusp of seeing some NHL action next season. These are the types of the players you need developing in Charlotte that can contribute at the NHL level, unlike the fodder that has been called upon in the past. Faulk, Fleury, Hanifin and Pesce sounds like a great foursome for years to come on defense.
 
Glad to see that Tolchinsky is still impressing the coaching staff. I always thougtht that our picking him up was a low risk/high reward scenario. Of course, playing in real games with professionals will be the ultimate evidence of the wisdom of that decision, but I'm optimistic.
 
Bottom line ... Tolchinsky is exactly the kind of guy a struggling organization has to take a chance on. If it doesn't work out, it didn't even cost you a draft pick. If it does work out, you're looking at a highly skilled NHL forward who can at least help in a support role. And again ... cost you nothing except taking a chance. Unsigned and undrafted players are a crapshoot to be sure, but when the cupboard is bare you have to do something to goose things up.
 
Speaking of big bodies, I was watching last night's scrimmage via the live stream (had it thrown up on the large screen at home).

A very large forward that I didn't recognize had me reaching for the roster after I noticed him for the umpteenth time make a pretty good move for such a large guy.

Nicolas Roy (presumably pronounced like the goaltender, as he's from Quebec), our surprise fourth-rounder (he was ranked #45 on the final Central Scouting NA skaters list).

6'4" 197 lbs and plays C/RW (the latter being a position of need). I see now why they were excited when they snagged him in the fourth round after trading away their third-rounder.
 
Elsker said:
Speaking of big bodies, I was watching last night's scrimmage via the live stream (had it thrown up on the large screen at home).

A very large forward that I didn't recognize had me reaching for the roster after I noticed him for the umpteenth time make a pretty good move for such a large guy.

Nicolas Roy (presumably pronounced like the goaltender, as he's from Quebec), our surprise fourth-rounder (he was ranked #45 on the final Central Scouting NA skaters list).

6'4" 197 lbs and plays C/RW (the latter being a position of need). I see now why they were excited when they snagged him in the fourth round after trading away their third-rounder.
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Read that he's quite the cerebral player too.
 
Elsker said:
Speaking of big bodies, I was watching last night's scrimmage via the live stream (had it thrown up on the large screen at home).

A very large forward that I didn't recognize had me reaching for the roster after I noticed him for the umpteenth time make a pretty good move for such a large guy.

Nicolas Roy (presumably pronounced like the goaltender, as he's from Quebec), our surprise fourth-rounder (he was ranked #45 on the final Central Scouting NA skaters list).

6'4" 197 lbs and plays C/RW (the latter being a position of need). I see now why they were excited when they snagged him in the fourth round after trading away their third-rounder.
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I saw some draft rankings that expected Roy to go mid-to-late first round. Everything I've read says his skating and first step is the issue. Most pundits believe that can be fixed-- perhaps dwind can weigh in on whether or not that's teachable and can be improved upon.
 
cmaleski2 said:
Collin Olson I can answer for....he was drafted when the 2005 CBA was in force:

Pulling from here: http://www.nhl.com/cba/2005-CBA.pdf

Old CBA 8.6.c.ii


I believe that fits Collin Olson's situation exactly. So that means we retain his rights until June 1st, 2016
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At Select A Seat tonight, they had the feed from practice on in the Arena Club. The blurb under Olson's name said that he's headed to Western Michigan in the fall. I assume that he'll have 2 years of eligibility left since he left Ohio St. after playing a few games as a sophomore.
 
I am curious of the potential makeup of our pool prospects on defense. The two consecutive 1st rounders, Fleury and Hanifin I have read both be compared to Jay Bouwmeester types, which is a good one.

I dug this up from the nextone site on Roland Mckeown, from his draft year, 2014. He is also a player who moved up and down in the rankings during his draft year to finally be picked 50th by the Kings. I saw him in some mock drafts go in the 20's.
http://thehockeywriters.com/roland-mckeown-the-next-ones-nhl-2014-draft-prospect-profile/

How about profiling the other guys, like Pesce, Slavin, etc... just to discuss. The size is coming if most of these guys make, and there's still no rush, lots of time to develop etc.. do we have other elements to their game such as grit, toughness, physical as well? Pesce has size, not sure if he's filled more into his frame yet.
 
What's the general feeling on Hanafin being signed in the next couple of weeks? It would seem this season more than most there are open spots on the Canes blueline for the kid to play in the NHL over the AHL. Any indication that Hanafin and his agent would sign a contract based on a general understanding that he would play in the NHL in October and not be sent to Charlotte?
 
CanadaCanes said:
What's the general feeling on Hanafin being signed in the next couple of weeks? It would seem this season more than most there are open spots on the Canes blueline for the kid to play in the NHL over the AHL. Any indication that Hanafin and his agent would sign a contract based on a general understanding that he would play in the NHL in October and not be sent to Charlotte?
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If he doesn't sign before camp, he's probably staying in school. Michael Smith touched on it yesterday, but made it sound like an either/or thing. But Canes picks Jesse Lane (remember him?) and Collin Olson dropped out of school during the school year. In Lane's case, he went to Hull in the Q but Olson went back to the USHL. Neither of them signed a professional contract. So I wonder if we can continue negotiating with him after the school year starts on 8/31.

http://hurricanes.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=774341#&navid=CAR-search
 
Hanafin said he would be making the decision in the next couple weeks - he said that earlier this week.

I would imagine he wants to see how the prospects development camp goes and if he thinks and the the team thinks he can stick at the NHL level. I think if they're not confident of that he'd go back to play another year at BC rather than take a chance on spending the year in Charlotte.
 
Live feed of this morning's practice session is here.

EDIT: And here is the camp roster since they are wearing numbered jerseys this season instead of just small numbers printed on the back of their helmets. Nice to be able to tell who is who...for a change.
 
It occurred to me the other day when I was watching a practice session that everyone the Canes org has on the ice (with the exception of Peters) has their name on the Cup.

Brind'Amour, Stillman, Wesley, and Smith have all been there, done that.

Pretty impressive instructional bunch.
 
Couple of observations about the practice sessions I have watched.

One, our defenseman prospects are easily able to handle our forward prospects during one-on-one drills, nearly always stripping them of the puck and/or edging them out of the prime shooting zone areas. Think that is a good thing and what one would hope to see.

Two, I love Brind'Amour's very animated explanations of aspects of the drills, whether at the board or just face-to-face with the players. He's very fun to watch, even when one can't hear what's being said. Lots of passion there. So glad he's apparently embracing coaching.
 
Elsker said:
Couple of observations about the practice sessions I have watched.

One, our defenseman prospects are easily able to handle our forward prospects during one-on-one drills, nearly always stripping them of the puck and/or edging them out of the prime shooting zone areas. Think that is a good thing and what one would hope to see.

Two, I love Brind'Amour's very animated explanations of aspects of the drills, whether at the board or just face-to-face with the players. He's very fun to watch, even when one can't hear what's being said. Lots of passion there. So glad he's apparently embracing coaching.
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Nice feedback, Elsker. I should have taken some time to watch in person, but these first-hand reports are fun to read. LOVE seeing that the defense appears to be performing at a high level.

Is it stupid to start feeling some excitement about this organization and where it is headed?
 
I only watched for a little while after I did the Select A Seat thing. One thing I noticed is that these guys are fricking huge. Michael Smith posted this in his last tweetmail update:

•2015 skater average: 6' 1.25", 192 lbs.
•2015 goalie average: 6' 3.75", 206.25 lbs.

•2012 skater average: 6' 0", 177.5 lbs.
•2012 goalie average: 6' 1", 193.5 lbs.

And Tolchinsky had this ridiculous goal yesterday:

[video]http://video.hurricanes.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=832025&catid=684[/video]
 
Hanafin cant play in Charlotte. If he signs a contract with the canes he either plays in NHL or juniors. Was drafted and still has a year left on junior eligibility.
 
tonberry44 said:
Hanafin cant play in Charlotte. If he signs a contract with the canes he either plays in NHL or juniors. Was drafted and still has a year left on junior eligibility.
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Except that Hanifin went the NCAA route (Boston College), so isn't subject to the agreement between the Canadian Hockey leagues (WHL, OHL, QJML) and the NHL about no poaching players for their AHL teams until they turn 20.

Fleury, on the other hand, is subject to those player restrictions since he went the juniors route. So for him, it's the NHL or juniors next season.

But Hanifin does have the AHL option available as a pro entry strategy.
 
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