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GDT: Canes @ Red Wings 1/12 7:00

Listening to the Red Wings feed and they acknowledge that bad refereeing cost the Canes in OT. Their color guy suggested an eye exam is needed.
 
It’s always been a garage league when it comes to the officiating and player safety. Add the shady video replay, some gambling and the leagues year after year blind eye to improving the quality of referees and you have the butchering of great games. Players and fans deserve better than that.
 
Aho and Ghost each picked up 10 minute misconducts.

Chris Schlenker called his first NHL game in October 2016. Tonight was his 513th regular season game. He’s worked 1 playoff game.
 
Meh. Ghost said afterward that if they'd played better during the first two periods they might not have been in that disappointing situation in OT.
 
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Unbelievable. I'm glad we got a bonus point, but this is the 2nd time in recent weeks where we've lost in OT due to a blatant and uncalled penalty. (I could be wrong....was the Jarvis trip in OT?)
 
ThinIce said:
Unbelievable. I'm glad we got a bonus point, but this is the 2nd time in recent weeks where we've lost in OT due to a blatant and uncalled penalty. (I could be wrong....was the Jarvis trip in OT?)
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That one was pedestrian compared to the screw job last night. And then they made sure we all knew what the deal was by giving out misconducts to Aho and Ghost. It’s been a LONG time since the Canes got as comprehensively screwed by NHL refs … maybe the "aliens invaded his helmet” game back during Mo 1.0 … and that was what? 1999? 2000? Somewhere in there. THAT’s how bad that no-call was. It hit the quarter century mark.

Honestly, I don’t even know those two clowns, but if and when we get Schlenker or Markovic in the Lenovo Center, I’m booing their asses.

All that said … maybe consider playing actual hockey at some point before the start of the 3rd period and you don’t leave it to the whims of the zebras. Really fun comeback, but absolutely unnecessary if they had managed to get in gear earlier in the game.
 
Punzil said:
Meh. Ghost said afterward that if they'd played better during the first two periods they might not have been in that disappointing situation in OT.
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Yeah, that's because he would have gotten fined or in trouble with the NHL if he'd said what he was really thinking.
It is still hard for me to imagine having the most highly skilled players on the planet and not having the best officiating crews to call the games. Instead, it's get the vaseline, because we're absolutely gonna {Polars word} this one.

Jim
 
Pucking Lamplighter said:
Yeah, that's because he would have gotten fined or in trouble with the NHL if he'd said what he was really thinking.
It is still hard for me to imagine having the most highly skilled players on the planet and not having the best officiating crews to call the games. Instead, it's get the vaseline, because we're absolutely gonna {Polars word} this one.

Jim
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I think that's what really grinds most fans when it comes to the state of the game in regards to officials. If the league actually showed some accountability and spoke out in regards to the incompetence of some guys that make such blatant mistakes like last night fiasco, fans could live with that. But instead the league doubles down and promotes it on their website like some kind of badge of honor and shows it off like it's a crown jewel. They never are accountable, the only thing you ever hear in regards to their shitty officials is how great they are compared to any other sport...never a mention of throwing money at better training of new officials, never accountability when they butcher games, never making an official accessible to explain his misdeeds and mistakes...just grossly inflated fines and suspensions to coaches and players who speak out on how awful the call actually was.
 
This is where the 'eye in the sky' official that would call down for egregious misses could fix things.

The problem of course is that could do either, or both of the following:

* Make on ice officials less likely to call penalties, expecting the eye in the sky to save them
* Make on ice officials more likely to call things that might not have been penalties because they don't want to look like they rely on the eye in the sky official to save them.

There will never be a fix of course. Really all I want to know is that officials are held accountable. That seems to be the case already with Chris Schlenker if he never gets playoff assignments, which are akin to bonus pay for NHL officials. The NHL apparently thinks he is a lesser referee. I'm sure incidents like last night are part of the reason.

And while we won't ever get this either, really what I would like to know is:

1) Did Schlenker NOT see the cross check at all?

if he did see it

2) Did he elect not to call a penalty because Ghost might have 'sold the call too much?'

If the answer is 1, then the NHL and those that are responsible for officiating are hopefully trying to figure out why that is. Does Schlenker just stink? Where was the other referee? Did he also really not see what happened? Can they all be better?

If the answer is 2, then call the penalty and embellishment, you know, like you are supposed to do. Yes that negates the scoring chance, which should not have been allowed the second Copp put his stick on Ghost's back.

Of course the answer could be #3, which is Schlenker decided he was not going to call a penalty because they 'gave' the Canes a 5 on 3 and that helped them battle back and tie the game and the Detroit fans were ready to string up the refs already.

The fact that really any of 1, 2 or 3 could be true is why no matter what the NHL says about the officiating, it's ridiculously arbitrary and maddening.
 
cmaleski2 said:
This is where the 'eye in the sky' official that would call down for egregious misses could fix things.

The problem of course is that could do either, or both of the following:

* Make on ice officials less likely to call penalties, expecting the eye in the sky to save them
* Make on ice officials more likely to call things that might not have been penalties because they don't want to look like they rely on the eye in the sky official to save them.

There will never be a fix of course. Really all I want to know is that officials are held accountable. That seems to be the case already with Chris Schlenker if he never gets playoff assignments, which are akin to bonus pay for NHL officials. The NHL apparently thinks he is a lesser referee. I'm sure incidents like last night are part of the reason.

And while we won't ever get this either, really what I would like to know is:

1) Did Schlenker NOT see the cross check at all?

if he did see it

2) Did he elect not to call a penalty because Ghost might have 'sold the call too much?'

If the answer is 1, then the NHL and those that are responsible for officiating are hopefully trying to figure out why that is. Does Schlenker just stink? Where was the other referee? Did he also really not see what happened? Can they all be better?

If the answer is 2, then call the penalty and embellishment, you know, like you are supposed to do. Yes that negates the scoring chance, which should not have been allowed the second Copp put his stick on Ghost's back.

Of course the answer could be #3, which is Schlenker decided he was not going to call a penalty because they 'gave' the Canes a 5 on 3 and that helped them battle back and tie the game and the Detroit fans were ready to string up the refs already.

The fact that really any of 1, 2 or 3 could be true is why no matter what the NHL says about the officiating, it's ridiculously arbitrary and maddening.
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That’salot of words just to say the refs suck ass.
 
FWIW, I paid attention to the only ref visible in the replays (the ref deep in Detroit’s offensive zone) and he wasn’t looking in front of the goal because he was staring intently at DeBrincat and whoever was defending him. But there’s NO way the trailing official didn’t see that cross check. It was visible from space. He just didn’t feel like calling it, or listening to the Canes complain when he didn’t.

Again, play better earlier (particularly in the 2nd period) and it’s a moot point. The Canes seem to be focused on that, and that’s the most mentally healthy way to go into the next game.
 
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