GDT: Game 6 - Montreal Canadiens @ NY Rangers – Thursday May-29, 2014 - 8:00 pm
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Isaac25
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You're right about 27...too bad he was anchored with 2 ineffective humps this round.
I'll take PK over Mcdo anyday
I like both but McDo is just a smarter player.
But Pk is more of a game breaker and game changer
PK will become smarter with time, he's already become a much better player overall since last year this time
whenever we lose you fall into the old reliable, outcoached line,
The smarter line is total horseshit and it is just like how Larry Bird was a smarter player than Magic.
Subban tries to do a lot, nothing wrong with that type of player. We just expect him never to make a mistake which is ridiculous.
I thought AV was a better coach before last night.
Sal_Butera
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Slow & steady almost always wins the race. Warren Buffet has been consistent over his lifetime, there have been splashier (game breaking) fund managers, but they haven't lasted the test of time.
Subban was a great pick, and an excellent young player, but he won't develop top end level hockey IQ. He plays hockey the way Bo Jackson played baseball, all athleticism (and superb at it), but that won't last the test of time - because the body beaks down faster than the brain, and when Subban's does, as it does for every athlete, he'll have trouble adapting.
Knock on wood, hoping that's a long ways away.
Sal_Butera
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Lidstrom almost never made mistakes, he wasn't big, wasn't fast, didn't have the hardest shot, but one of the greatest Dman ever, simply because he was the smartest guy on the ice w unmatched hockey IQ.
Lidstrom was pretty big from what I recall.
You probably don't mean it that way but the way you constantly say that the black player Subban is dumb and gets by on his athleticism compared to smart white boys who aren't are skilled does smack of subtle racism.
You probably don't mean it that way but the way you constantly say that the black player Subban is dumb and gets by on his athleticism compared to smart white boys who aren't are skilled does smack of subtle racism.
Sal_Butera
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Iginla last time I checked was a player of color, his hockey IQ is off the charts, from day 1, especially for a power forward, whose game is based on emotion & thump, never gets dumb penalties at critical moments, and never gets caught out of position.
Last I checked I've gone on record as saying Evander Kane with the right surrounding will transform into a steal of a move by a team - hopefully by the Habs. His hockey IQ is solid, just needs to mature, learn to behave/conduct himself as a professional which'll come over time.
Does that help?
BTW, Lidstrom was 190 lbs soaking wet, with an anchor around his neck.
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and you don't watch either of them all the time, nor with a vested interest so you are not noting all their "low IQ" moves
Subban is not a dumb player, it is ridiculous to say he is
Subban is not a dumb player, it is ridiculous to say he is
Sal_Butera
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Never said he was a dumb player (don't put words in my mouth), I said he won't develop elite hockey IQ, even though he pretty much already possesses elite hockey skills, and IMO is the best pure athlete in the NHL.
Low IQ is the same thing
Sal_Butera
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U'r being a lawyer. Non elite hockey IQ does not translate to low IQ.
I agree.
The TSN panel had a quiz question about Subban & McDonagh and it was 2-1 for Subban but that was before the series started.
McDonagh is impressive but I think PK has more upside once he fully grasps his role on the team.