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Gunnarson traded to the Blues for Polak, draft pick

Guess they wanted a cheaper option who might help them a bit more on the PK, a perennial weak spot. but did we really have to retain salary AND give them a pick too, for a worse player??

Mind you, Gunnarsson has been well below his customary level lately due to the injuries.

If gunnar can get healthy again the Blues win this deal IMO. especially if they do something with that pick.
 
Could someone with twitter post the charts that extraskater.com posted concerning the trade....that would be great.
 
Volcanologist said:
Guess they wanted a cheaper option who might help them a bit more on the PK, a perennial weak spot. but did we really have to retain salary AND give them a pick too, for a worse player??

Mind you, Gunnarsson has been well below his customary level lately due to the injuries.

If gunnar can get healthy again the Blues win this deal IMO. especially if they do something with that pick.
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The idea here is that Polak is bigger and stronger, and can win battles along the boards and in front of the net. The problem for me is though, that those eye testy type things haven't translated into decent advanced statistics for Polak at all. On a very strong possession team, he's a weak possession defender, despite being heavily sheltered 5 on 5.

I have a feeling we're going to see another player from another team have his Corsi% drop like a stone under Randy.
 
We still need a major upgrade to our top 4 - Phaneuf, Rielly, Gardiner and -------. Not sure how they'll get it.
 
Buy out Gleason now that they have Polak, trade Franson, and then sign Boyle.

Rielly-Phaneuf
Boyle-Gardiner
Polak-Granberg
 
What is it with this team gifting St. Louis good players all the time in return for older, less effective versions of our guys?

Christ this stinks to high heaven as a defencemen version of the Stempniak-Steen deal. There's absolutely no justification for giving up our best defensive blueliner, hip injury or not, in return for a much more limited, older, marginally less expensive - although purportedly even that is no longer the case - version of him.

Stupid, stupid deal.

It wouldn't shock me if Gunnarsson became one of the league leaders in plus-minus under Hitchcock next season and comfortably played well over 20 minutes per game, while Polak is gone as a Leaf in under two unmemorable, ineffective years.
 
Classic case of a very good player having his value tanked by a stupid team getting traded for a bad player having his value boosted by playing for a very smart team.

Gunnar is going to excel as a top 4 dman for the Blues, paired beautifully with Shattenkirk on the 2nd pairing. Polak is going to struggle as a #6 in Toronto, and bring down whichever of Rielly or Gardiner they decide he can "help".

and we gave up a pick and salary.

Nonis is an embarassment.
 
Metalleaf said:
Buy out Gleason now that they have Polak, trade Franson, and then sign Boyle.

Rielly-Phaneuf
Boyle-Gardiner
Polak-Granberg
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Both Polak and Granberg are right handed

If anything, Polak is blocking Granberg's spot. He's a 3rd pairing, right handed defender.
 
zeke said:
Classic case of a very good player having his value tanked by a stupid team getting traded for a bad player having his value boosted by playing for a very smart team.

Gunnar is going to excel as a top 4 dman for the Blues. Polak is going to struggle as a #6 in Toronto.

and we gave up a pick and salary.

Nonis is an embarassment.
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Yep, can't say that I disagree with this.
 
I dont know much about Polak, but **** me... why did we piss away a 4th rounder? This is the problem I have with Nonis, it seems in every trade he makes he tosses draft picks away.... the way to build a team is through the draft, and this idiot goes out and chucks them way..... I hope that prick is fired tommorow I really do.

Lets count the number of picks he's chucked away

4th rounder- O'Byrne
2nd rounder- Bolland
4th rounder- Bolland
4th rounder- Bolland
2ndr- Bernier
4th rounder- Pollak

That's 6 picks he's tossed away- O'Byrne is long gone, Bolland looks like he's out the door, we still have Bernier which is a good thing.... just think of the players we could have drafted with those picks.
 
zeke said:
Classic case of a very good player having his value tanked by a stupid team getting traded for a bad player having his value boosted by playing for a very smart team.
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Exactly.

It's so sad that they didn't clean house at the end of the season. This trade also has Carlyle's fingerprints all over it. Yeah, the problem with the pk is the players! I still can't believe that they not only didn't fire his ass, but extended him. What a cluster****.
 
BeLeafer said:
Exactly.

It's so sad that they didn't clean house at the end of the season. This trade also has Carlyle's fingerprints all over it. Yeah, the problem with the pk is the players! I still can't believe that they not only didn't fire his ass, but extended him. What a cluster****.
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THE PROBLEM WITH THE PK IS THE TEAM'S BEST DEFENSIVE BLUELINER!
 
Gunnarsson was one of the rare examples of the Leafs getting great value from a later draft selection. And they piss it away ... of course.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
THE PROBLEM WITH THE PK IS THE TEAM'S BEST DEFENSIVE BLUELINER!
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Disagree- One player cannot sink a PK that badly in a span of a year. The problem is a systematic thing, in 12/13 Carlyle employed a very aggressive PK that charged at the points and gave other teams little to no time to set up a play, they came right up and didn't sit back in front of their net. Last year, the PK was far more passive and the players tended to collapse back in front of their net in hopes of taking away inside shots and passing, problem is that it exposed the points and as a result they were scored on a lot more then they were on the PK then they were in 12/13.
 
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