Habs-25
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There are plenty guys at NHL minimum which is 600-700k. Not all minor 4th liners make 1 M or more NHL salary(if they play in nhl).
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Habs sign Paul Byron to three-year, $3.5M deal
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BKerr
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You need a 4th line for 82 games.... Having NHL vets like Byron who can help kill penalties, and who you can put on the ice and not be a liability is worth a couple hundred thousand extra.
I'm not paying 3million per player for those guys, but a couple hundred thousand, thats not a big deal for someone you can rely on.
Can't have a fourth line of 3 rookies and save that 600,000; cause three rookies is gonna be a liability.
Again something like
Carr - De la Rose - Byron
Hudon - Mitchell - Flynn
DSP
Mix the youngsters and the vets to help them.
BKerr
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Guys who take that little are not good penalty killers. They are usually defensive liabilities
Habs-25
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Is not only Byron signing, is we have 3 players who are pretty much similar and non has good size, do you agree that size is kind of matter for 4th liners? I mean i can live with one not all 3, mitchell and flynn are not small but not big either. Unless we get a big 4th liner or find one from minor and play Byron on 3rd line with like DLR or Eller and Carr.
Edited, ok i just saw you edited your post and posted same thing as i mentioned. That makes more sense, i agree.
Habs-25
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Not sure Hudon is nice fit on 4th. I rather have at least a big guy on 4th. Also we kind of know if Eller is dealt, DLR play as 3rd pivot, i am not yet convinced of his offensive game or at least is not there yet. As 3rd you need to score 10-15 goals and give around 30-35 points, not sure he has that in him. Hudon can be better fit but he lack size, unless we get a big no1 center man.
BKerr
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It is just an example. The idea though is to save the money down there.... and then spend it on the big #1 C and a big winger.
Galchenyuk - Stamkos - Gallagher
Pacioretty - Plekanec - Boedker
as an example
Cause you saved the money on the bottom six
That said it likely can't happen for next season, its gonna take some time to dump all of Emelin, Eller, DD, Gilbert,.... but thats the idea... go like Chicago... 5-6 cheap forwards, 3 cheap defencemen, cheap backup goalie... spend everywhere else.
Galchenyuk - Stamkos - Gallagher
Pacioretty - Plekanec - Boedker
as an example
Cause you saved the money on the bottom six
That said it likely can't happen for next season, its gonna take some time to dump all of Emelin, Eller, DD, Gilbert,.... but thats the idea... go like Chicago... 5-6 cheap forwards, 3 cheap defencemen, cheap backup goalie... spend everywhere else.
Habs-25
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Yes eventually it is the idea but as you said it takes time, also we need real first line right wing, gallagher is an excellent second, so i don't know what MB priority will be finding a no1 center or real no1 right winger. I don't see he manage to do both this summer, specially with contracts like DD, Eller and Emelin.
BKerr
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Gallagher is top 10 in Points per game for a RW (tied with Jagr for 8th in the NHL). He's young and has gotten better every year. If thats not a real first line RW I don't know what is.
Scoring by RW around the NHL is down, you aren't gonna find too many guys better than Gallagher.
Getting a UFA who is better will be tough, Eriksson is slightly ahead, but he's older than Gallagher, and hasn't put up this PPG in several years. Okposo is also ahead, but only slightly and plays with Tavares. I'm not sure you are gonna find someone "better"
Scoring by RW around the NHL is down, you aren't gonna find too many guys better than Gallagher.
Getting a UFA who is better will be tough, Eriksson is slightly ahead, but he's older than Gallagher, and hasn't put up this PPG in several years. Okposo is also ahead, but only slightly and plays with Tavares. I'm not sure you are gonna find someone "better"
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Habsy
Not playing around anymore.
Habs-25
Banned
he is..
Bang on , you will be seeing more of this with this strained cap . Fewer and fewer 3 mil+ contracts handed out to bottom 6 or third pairing D .
The key is we signed 11 at very good money. This is is also important in a cap world , retaining your key players without overpaying. The better Okposo's or Erikson's will demand 5-6 mil . We signed 11 at the perfect time when it looked like 40 points was his ceiling but he has made huge strides this year .
wiseguy1
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So many dinosaurs here. The game has changed , heck 5'9" defensemen are signed to long term contracts for 6 million a year (Spurgeon). Ellis plays a regular shift for the Preds, Tampa has smurfs in spades. Bottom line , Byron is a good player, he's already been punished for being small by signing for only a million a year.
legoalie
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signing 3 years has a lot to do with him experiencing being CUT from a NHL team like the Flames and passed by other NHL teams until we picked him up... 1 year contract would of been ok
wiseguy1
Well-known member
I just posted a tweet from Lebrun that said he was very much a wanted man. And you forget that the Flames are run by a dinosaur, Burke. That's why they have Colborne playing top minutes when most teams wouldnt want that .
You guys should understand the team philosophy of the Habs, if you got speed and can play decent hockey we will sign you. Thats why Holloway was only up for a cup of coffee, thats why Semin is gone.
habsforever
Active member
I think they do. Signing Byron hopefully means weise will be dealt. No need for 7 3rd/4th liners in the lineup.
Actually who am I kidding. MB can only get those types of players. I'm sure weise will be resigned soon.
We all agree we need more size but laud signing a small guy.
legoalie
LeAdminie
I know, but we are dinosaurs for wanting to have size because the NHL has changed.. tell that to the Caps who built their team to play against the bigger teams of the west.. I don't mind smaller guys if they have heart and guts like Gally.. we have a smurf on every line...hello
legoalie
LeAdminie
show me a contending NHL team that has 3 guys below 5'10" , at best you find 1 player and that is Tampa.. we have 3 guys ..