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Leafs/Habs/Sens 2014-15

Just looked over the Sens roster and other than Stone (who most recognize as a serious up-and-comer and calder favourite) I don't see any shooting %'s that unreasonable.

If you are going to argue that our S% is unsustainable since Feb 17th then you should recognize it was lower than it should be before then. That's kind of how %'s work.
 
Yup. Nearly a half season of luck. That's a much more likely scenario.

Sad stuff here from you two. I expect more.

We're back to this half a season stuff again?

41 points in Ottawa's last 25 games = 135 point pace

Put another way:

First 51 games - 47 points = 77 point pace
Last 29 games - 45 points = 127 point pace

and within those 29 games there are a lot of "luck" indicators....including a stretch of .940 play from a career minor league goaltender. But yeah, we're the ones being crazy here.
 
Seriously...that's his go to when getting roasted.


Better than ****ing off for a few weeks I suppose.

Of course, it's adorable that neither of you spot the irony in him calling me dishonest after 1) I directly addressed all of his points if either of you had the statistical knowledge to understand the answers & 2) He provided a grossly incomplete set of numbers like they mean something when standing alone like that.

But continue on as you were my son, thinking that I'm getting "roasted", or that you're "smacking around the board bully" or whatever bullshit you've dreamt up out of this exchange.
 
Throw in whatever you want. Since the Sens hot streak began on February 10 their PDO is 4th in the NHL at 101.6. Its percentage driven.
And over the course of the entire season it's 101.0 - good for 6th overall.

According to war-on-ice it's now 100.9 - good for 7th. Point remains.
 
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We're back to this half a season stuff again?

41 points in Ottawa's last 25 games = 135 point pace

Put another way:

First 51 games - 47 points = 77 point pace
Last 29 games - 45 points = 127 point pace

and within those 29 games there are a lot of "luck" indicators....including a stretch of .940 play from a career minor league goaltender. But yeah, we're the ones being crazy here.
What Senators S% is unreasonable.

Seriously, you say we are buoyed by goaltending. I point out that we are one of the top scoring teams. Suddenly that's luck.
 
What Senators S% is unreasonable.

Seriously, you say we are buoyed by goaltending. I point out that we are one of the top scoring teams. Suddenly that's luck.

I agree, it's not luck, that being said elite goaltending has definitely given the Sens the confidence to take offensive chances out there... thus increasing shots for as well as goals.
 
Sens PDO
Oct 1 - Feb 10: 100.4 (14th)
Feb 10 - now - 101.6 (4th)

Evidently the hot streak is percentage driven and unsustainable. Like most hot streaks.

Nothing dramatically changed other than their goaltending and shooting percentage improved.
 
Sens PDO
Oct 1 - Feb 10: 100.4 (14th)
Feb 10 - now - 101.6 (4th)

Evidently the hot streak is percentage driven and unsustainable. Like most hot streaks.

Nothing dramatically changed other than their goaltending and shooting percentage improved.
Anderson was providing very capable goaltending before Hammond came in.

Also, no consideration given to a coaching change and young player development.

This is one of the saddest arguments I've seen this board take on.
 
What Senators S% is unreasonable.

Seriously, you say we are buoyed by goaltending. I point out that we are one of the top scoring teams. Suddenly that's luck.

There are elements of luck in your increased goal scoring, yes. Senator shot attempts have increased in the last 30 games, so it's not all a mirage, but there hasn't been a large enough shot increase to suggest that the increased offensive output is sustainable.

The more you break this down, the more it shows itself as a streak driven by luck. Another indicator?

7-3 in OT/SO games over this stretch
14-3 in 1 goal games + EN
 
No, you are just out of your depth and a distraction.

I'm not the one living in denial in regards to the Sens.... like I said if you can't even realize elite goaltending is a large reason for the Sens surge, as well as being a top goal scoring team in the league it just shows how truly delusional and out of touch with reality you are when it comes to hockey matters.
 
Under MacLean = 100.2 (15th)
Under Cameron = 101.1 (7th)

Amazing. Under a new coach with a better system, the team has improved.
 
Listen I am not going to ignore what the statistics say, and conventional wisdom just because you guys are sensitive.

The Sens have had an unsustainable high PDO over this hot streak. Its a fact.
 
I'm not the one living in denial in regards to the Sens.... like I said if you can't even realize elite goaltending is a large reason for the Sens surge, as well as being a top goal scoring team in the league it just shows how truly delusional and out of touch with reality you are when it comes to hockey matters.
Really close to being my first ever block. Before sheep.
 
Listen I am not going to ignore what the statistics say, and conventional wisdom just because you guys are sensitive.

The Sens have had an unsustainable high PDO over this hot streak. Its a fact.
And a record that wasn't reflective of our PDO before Feb 10th.

Funny how things level out over the course of a season. I've never argued the Sens are a 135 point team. But I do think they are a 94-98 point team as they are currently structured.

You guys seem to think we are a bottom feeder...and aren't making a case for it in any way.
 
Listen I am not going to ignore what the statistics say, and conventional wisdom just because you guys are sensitive.

The Sens have had an unsustainable high PDO over this hot streak. Its a fact.

Bang on! You're 100% correct that the facts presented speak for themselves, then again a lot of sens fans get butt-hurt over it when Leaf fans are the ones pointing it out... goes back to their inferiority complex.
 
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