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Leafs - Sens - Habs 2013-14

Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

So you are sure that players rebound from these injuries just fine, but at the same time will blame the injury for him not repeating his golden year again.

nice.
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

I believe he is saying this year might be down but next year he will be back to god like status.
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

corksens said:
Because you are basing the potential of that happening on hope. You HOPE he doesn't come back 100%.
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What you call "hope", I call "common sense". Dude suffered a ****ing gruesome injury.

There is no proof that players don't rebound from that type of injury. Zero. All we do know is that most people suggest it takes a full 12 months to get back to normal.

He's at the 8 month mark.
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Heh, you were saying 6 before...
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

Yeah, too lazy to look it up cork, but I recall you posting an article where HK himself claims to be "fully recovered" and 100%.

Not to mention all the caterwauling by your whole posse here that his play would be improved from the playoffs because (not if) he was healthy.

But, I'm sure it's just his achilles preventing his ascent to martyrdom.
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

Wayward DP said:
Yeah, too lazy to look it up cork, but I recall you posting an article where HK himself claims to be "fully recovered" and 100%.

Not to mention all the caterwauling by your whole posse here that his play would be improved from the playoffs because (not if) he was healthy.

But, I'm sure it's just his achilles preventing his ascent to martyrdom.
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I never would have said he was 100% because Karlsson himself has been very careful not to use that number.

Bieksa, Selanne - both said it took them a full year to get back to normal.
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

corksens said:
I never would have said he was 100% because Karlsson himself has been very careful not to use that number.

Bieksa, Selanne - both said it took them a full year to get back to normal.
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I could've sworn HK himself said he was fully recovered, but since I'm too lazy to look it up, I'll take your word on it.

It is a rather convenient scapegoat for his lacklustre start however.
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

I think we have a good team here. I think we have a good enough team to overcome injuries, back to backs, and bad officiating most nights. Not all nights, but most nights. We can win tonight, even if we're missing a winger on each line. Hope not to hear these kind of excuses made for our team this year.
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

hockeylover said:
I think we have a good team here. I think we have a good enough team to overcome injuries, back to backs, and bad officiating most nights. Not all nights, but most nights. We can win tonight, even if we're missing a winger on each line. Hope not to hear these kind of excuses made for our team this year.
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No one is making excuses, not among we posters or the players or the media.
You play the cards you're dealt and you move on. The Leafs aren't going to win all their games and they aren't going win all their back to backs, but the important thing is being "in" games and progressing. Once Clarkson and everyone are back we should have a pretty nice top 6. I like us against anyone in the East to be honest.
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

KingTucker said:
No one is making excuses, not among we posters or the players or the media.
You play the cards you're dealt and you move on. The Leafs aren't going to win all their games and they aren't going win all their back to backs, but the important thing is being "in" games and progressing. Once Clarkson and everyone are back we should have a pretty nice top 6. I like us against anyone in the East to be honest.
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I don't think you were following. When I said "these kind of excuses" I meant the kind of excuses we've been hearing from Sens fans thus far. Back to backs, road trips, penalties, not 100%, etc, etc. I think we have a good team here and good teams overcome that kind of stuff so I hope not to hear that shit from our fans this year.
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

hockeylover said:
I don't think you were following. When I said "these kind of excuses" I meant the kind of excuses we've been hearing from Sens fans thus far. Back to backs, road trips, penalties, not 100%, etc, etc. I think we have a good team here and good teams overcome that kind of stuff so I hope not to hear that shit from our fans this year.
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Oh apologies HL. Yeah, I don't think we will. I mean, there will be some caterwauling about calls by refs and such (I know I complain about that for sure) but I think we're pretty even-keeled here.
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

KingTucker said:
Oh apologies HL. Yeah, I don't think we will. I mean, there will be some caterwauling about calls by refs and such (I know I complain about that for sure) but I think we're pretty even-keeled here.
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Yeah, that's normal. It happens. If you find yourself complaining about the refs nearly every game, your team is probably just playing like shit though.
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

I've got tickets for that afternoon Edmonton game - they better not lay an egg.
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

C N.Kadri (23): 7gms, 2gls, 7pts, 10ht, 2bk, 15:27 (82gms, 23gls, 82pts, 117ht, 23bk)
C J.Spezza (30): 5gms, 4gls, 5pts, 5ht, 1bk, 19:07 (82gms, 66gls, 82pts, 82ht, 16bk)
C L.Eller (24): 6gms, 5gls, 7pts, 9ht, 5bk, 17:34 (82gms, 68gls, 96pts, 123ht, 68bk)

W P.Kessel (26): 7gms, 2gls, 8pts, 4ht, 2bk, 20:55 (82gms, 23gls, 94pts, 47ht, 23bk)
W B.Ryan (26): 6gms, 3gls, 5pts, 18ht, 1bk, 17:27 (82gms, 41gls, 66pts, 246ht, 14bk)
W A.Galchenyuk (19): 6gms, 1gls, 7pts, 7ht, 4bk, 15:00 (82gms, 14gls, 96pts, 96ht, 55bk)

W J.Lupul (30): 7gms, 5gls, 8pts, 11ht, 3bk, 17:08 (82gms, 59gls, 94pts, 129ht, 35bk)
W M.Michalek (29): 6gms, 1gls, 4pts, 10ht, 3bk, 18:16 (82gms, 14gls, 55pts, 137ht, 41bk)
W B.Gallagher (21): 6gms, 3gls, 5pts, 4ht, 3bk, 14:24 (82gms, 41gls, 68pts, 55ht, 41bk)


C T.Bozak (27): 7gms, 3gls, 5pts, 10ht, 7bk, 21:45 (82gms, 35gls, 59pts, 117ht, 82bk)
C K.Turris (24): 6gms, 1gls, 5pts, 1ht, 3bk, 18:57 (82gms, 14gls, 66pts, 14ht, 41bk)
C T.Plekanec (31): 6gms, 1gls, 2pts, 6ht, 5bk, 18:06 (82gms, 14gls, 27pts, 82ht, 68bk)

W J.VanRiemsdyk (24): 6gms, 5gls, 6pts, 15ht, 3bk, 21:37 (82gms, 68gls, 82pts, 205ht, 41bk)
W C.Conacher (24): 6gms, 2gls, 2pts, 2ht, 5bk, 14:00 (82gms, 27gls, 27pts, 27ht, 66bk)
W M.Pacioretty (25): 5gms, 2gls, 3pts, 4ht, 5bk, 14:29 (82gms, 33gls, 49pts, 66ht, 82bk)

W D.Clarkson (29): 0gms, 0gls, 0pts, 0ht, 0bk, 0:00 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 0ht, 0bk)
W C.MacArthur (28): 6gms, 0gls, 2pts, 8ht, 2bk, 17:32 (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, 109ht, 27bk)
W B.Gionta (35): 5gms, 1gls, 2pts, 2ht, 7bk, 15:59 (82gms, 16gls, 33pts, 33ht, 115bk)


C D.Bolland (27): 7gms, 3gls, 5pts, 14ht, 5bk, 16:03 (82gms, 35gls, 59pts, 164ht, 59bk)
C Z.Smith (25): 6gms, 1gls, 1pts, 9ht, 2bk, 14:19 (82gms, 14gls, 14pts, 123ht, 27bk)
C D.Desharnais (27): 6gms, 0gls, 1pts, 1ht, 5bk, 15:29 (82gms, 0gls, 14pts, 14ht, 68bk)

W N.Kulemin (27): 2gms, 0gls, 2pts, 4ht, 3bk, 15:50 (82gms, 0gls, 82pts, 164ht, 123bk)
W C.Greening (27): 6gms, 0gls, 3pts, 17ht, 2bk, 13:14 (82gms, 0gls, 41pts, 252ht, 27bk)
W R.Bourque (32): 6gms, 1gls, 2pts, 6ht, 1bk, 15:44 (82gms, 14gls, 27pts, 82ht, 14bk)

W M.Raymond (28): 7gms, 4gls, 8pts, 4ht, 2bk, 17:16 (82gms, 47gls, 94pts, 47ht, 23bk)
W E.Condra (27): 6gms, 0gls, 1pts, 2ht, 6bk, 11:46 (82gms, 0gls, 14pts, 27ht, 82bk)
W D.Briere (36): 6gms, 1gls, 3pts, 4ht, 1bk, 15:29 (82gms, 14gls, 41pts, 55ht, 14bk)


C J.McClement (30): 6gms, 0gls, 0pts, 10ht, 3bk, 16:01 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 137ht, 41bk)
C J.Pageau (21): 6gms, 1gls, 1pts, 8ht, 1bk, 10:20 (82gms, 14gls, 14pts, 109ht, 14bk)
C B.Prust (29): 6gms, 2gls, 2pts, 5ht, 4bk, 12:07 (82gms, 27gls, 27pts, 68ht, 55bk)

W C.Ashton (22): 6gms, 0gls, 1pts, 8ht, 1bk, 6:15 (82gms, 0gls, 14pts, 109ht, 14bk)
W C.Neil (34): 6gms, 0gls, 0pts, 24ht, 0bk, 11:28 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 328ht, 0bk)
W T.Moen (31): 6gms, 0gls, 2pts, 6ht, 3bk, 11:30 (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, 82ht, 41bk)

W C.Orr (31): 7gms, 0gls, 0pts, 15ht, 0bk, 6:41 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 176ht, 0bk)
W M.Kassian (27): 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, 3ht, 0bk, 4:31 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 82ht, 0bk)
W G.Parros (34): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts, 1ht, 0bk, 4:17 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 82ht, 0bk)


C T.Smith (28): 2gms, 1gls, 1pts, 2ht, 1bk, 5:34 (82gms, 41gls, 41pts, 82ht, 41bk)
C S.DaCosta (24): 4gms, 0gls, 0pts, 4ht, 2bk, 11:27 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 82ht, 41bk)
C R.White (25): 4gms, 0gls, 0pts, 4ht, 3bk, 9:14 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 82ht, 62bk)

W D.Broll (20): 3gms, 0gls, 1pts, 3ht, 2bk, 8:23 (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, 82ht, 55bk)
W ------ (--): ------
W M.Bournival (21): 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, 1ht, 1bk, 7:55 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 27ht, 27bk)

W J.Leivo (20): 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, 4ht, 0bk, 11:12 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 109ht, 0bk)
W ------ (--): ------
W ------ (--): ------




D D.Phaneuf (28): 7gms, 1gls, 4pts, 17ht, 15bk, 24:56 (82gms, 12gls, 47pts, 199ht, 176bk)
D E.Karlsson (23): 6gms, 1gls, 3pts, 8ht, 8bk, 27:23 (82gms, 14gls, 41pts, 109ht, 109bk)
D P.K.Subban (24): 6gms, 2gls, 8pts, 5ht, 6bk, 24:58 (82gms, 27gls, 109pts, 68ht, 82bk)

D C.Franson (26): 7gms, 0gls, 6pts, 25ht, 15bk, 21:59 (82gms, 0gls, 70pts, 293ht, 176bk)
D M.Methot (28): 6gms, 0gls, 1pts, 11ht, 5bk, 22:42 (82gms, 0gls, 14pts, 150ht, 68bk)
D A.Markov (35): 6gms, 0gls, 2pts, 3ht, 11bk, 24:24 (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, 41ht, 150bk)


D C.Gunnarsson (27): 7gms, 0gls, 1pts, 12ht, 17bk, 20:14 (82gms, 0gls, 12pts, 141ht, 199bk)
D C.Phillips (35): 6gms, 0gls, 2pts, 14ht, 8bk, 21:22 (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, 191ht, 109bk)
D J.Gorges (29): 6gms, 1gls, 2pts, 7ht, 18bk, 20:51 (82gms, 14gls, 27pts, 96ht, 246bk)

D J.Gardiner (23): 7gms, 0gls, 2pts, 11ht, 4bk, 19:20 (82gms, 0gls, 23pts, 129ht, 47bk)
D P.Wiercioch (23): 6gms, 0gls, 4pts, 5ht, 8bk, 17:24 (82gms, 0gls, 55pts, 68ht, 109bk)
D R.Diaz (28): 6gms, 0gls, 3pts, 2ht, 11bk, 21:00 (82gms, 0gls, 41pts, 27ht, 150bk)


D P.Ranger (29): 7gms, 0gls, 0pts, 14ht, 8bk, 20:02 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 164ht, 94bk)
D J.Cowen (22): 6gms, 1gls, 2pts, 18ht, 12bk, 18:30 (82gms, 14gls, 27pts, 246ht, 164bk)
D F.Bouillon (38): 6gms, 0gls, 2pts, 8ht, 9bk, 16:04 (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, 109ht, 123bk)

D M.Rielly (19): 5gms, 0gls, 3pts, 8ht, 7bk, 17:31 (82gms, 0gls, 49pts, 131ht, 115bk)
D J.Corvo (36): 3gms, 0gls, 3pts, 0ht, 2bk, 14:36 (82gms, 0gls, 82pts, 0ht, 55bk)
D N.Beaulieu (21): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts, 0ht, 0bk, 11:07 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 98ht, 115bk)


D M.Fraser (27): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts, 7ht, 3bk, 12:03 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 287ht, 123bk)
D E.Gryba (25): 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, 8ht, 6bk, 16:29 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 219ht, 164bk)
D M.Tinordi (21): 4gms, 0gls, 0pts, 8ht, 5bk, 13:43 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 164ht, 103bk)

D ------------- (--): ---
D ------------- (--): ---
D D.Murray (33): 0gms, 0gls, 0pts, 0ht, 0bk, 0:00 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 0ht, 0bk)




G J.Bernier (25): 5gms, 4-1-0, 1.75gaa, 1so, .946sv%
G C.Anderson (32): 5gms, 2-1-2, 3.10gaa, 1so, .916sv%
G C.Price (26): 5gms, 3-2-0, 1.81gaa, 1so, .944sv%

G J.Reimer (25): 2gms, 2-0-0, 3.18gaa, 0so, .916sv%
G R.Lehner (22): 2gms, 0-1-0, 2.64gaa, 0so, .948sv%
G P.Budaj (31): 1gms, 1-0-0, 1.00gaa, 0so, .964sv%
 
Re: Leafs - Sens - Habs 13-14

C N.Kadri (23): 7gms, 2gls, 7pts, 10ht, 2bk, 15:27 (82gms, 23gls, 82pts, 117ht, 23bk)
W P.Kessel (26): 7gms, 2gls, 8pts, 4ht, 2bk, 20:55 (82gms, 23gls, 94pts, 47ht, 23bk)
W J.Lupul (30): 7gms, 5gls, 8pts, 11ht, 3bk, 17:08 (82gms, 59gls, 94pts, 129ht, 35bk)

C T.Bozak (27): 7gms, 3gls, 5pts, 10ht, 7bk, 21:45 (82gms, 35gls, 59pts, 117ht, 82bk)
W M.Raymond (28): 7gms, 4gls, 8pts, 4ht, 2bk, 17:16 (82gms, 47gls, 94pts, 47ht, 23bk)
W J.VanRyk (24): 6gms, 5gls, 6pts, 15ht, 3bk, 21:37 (82gms, 68gls, 82pts, 205ht, 41bk)

C D.Bolland (27): 7gms, 3gls, 5pts, 14ht, 5bk, 16:03 (82gms, 35gls, 59pts, 164ht, 59bk)
W N.Kulemin (27): 2gms, 0gls, 2pts, 4ht, 3bk, 15:50 (82gms, 0gls, 82pts, 164ht, 123bk)
W D.Clarkson (29): 0gms, 0gls, 0pts, 0ht, 0bk, 0:00 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 0ht, 0bk)

C J.McClement (30): 6gms, 0gls, 0pts, 10ht, 3bk, 16:01 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 137ht, 41bk)
W C.Ashton (22): 6gms, 0gls, 1pts, 8ht, 1bk, 6:15 (82gms, 0gls, 14pts, 109ht, 14bk)
W C.Orr (31): 7gms, 0gls, 0pts, 15ht, 0bk, 6:41 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 176ht, 0bk)

C T.Smith (28): 2gms, 1gls, 1pts, 2ht, 1bk, 5:34 (82gms, 41gls, 41pts, 82ht, 41bk)
W D.Broll (20): 3gms, 0gls, 1pts, 3ht, 2bk, 8:23 (82gms, 0gls, 27pts, 82ht, 55bk)
W J.Leivo (20): 3gms, 0gls, 0pts, 4ht, 0bk, 11:12 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 109ht, 0bk)



D D.Phaneuf (28): 7gms, 1gls, 4pts, 17ht, 15bk, 24:56 (82gms, 12gls, 47pts, 199ht, 176bk)
D C.Franson (26): 7gms, 0gls, 6pts, 25ht, 15bk, 21:59 (82gms, 0gls, 70pts, 293ht, 176bk)

D C.Gunnar (27): 7gms, 0gls, 1pts, 12ht, 17bk, 20:14 (82gms, 0gls, 12pts, 141ht, 199bk)
D P.Ranger (29): 7gms, 0gls, 0pts, 14ht, 8bk, 20:02 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 164ht, 94bk)

D J.Gardiner (23): 7gms, 0gls, 2pts, 11ht, 4bk, 19:20 (82gms, 0gls, 23pts, 129ht, 47bk)
D M.Rielly (19): 5gms, 0gls, 3pts, 8ht, 7bk, 17:31 (82gms, 0gls, 49pts, 131ht, 115bk)

D M.Fraser (27): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts, 7ht, 3bk, 12:03 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 287ht, 123bk)



G J.Bernier (25): 5gms, 4-1-0, 1.75gaa, 1so, .946sv%
G J.Reimer (25): 2gms, 2-0-0, 3.18gaa, 0so, .916sv%
 
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