Lineup Your Lineups Brendan Shanahan Edition
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leafman101
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They are similar. They are both good two way first line centers that do everything well and are hard to play against. They both have skill and scored a lot as younger players but have developed into two way players.
Stastny was used the same way Bergeron is this year.
Stastny was used the same way Bergeron is this year.
leafman101
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Trades:
Picks for Owuya
#8, Gardiner, Franson and Clarkson (eat $2.1 mill) for #3
Bozak for picks
Free Agents
Jagr 1 year $4-5 million
Iginla 2 years $6-$7 million per
Markov 3 years $5-$7 million per
Stastny 5-7 years $6.5 million per
Bargain 3rd line winger (see: Raymond/Clarkson)
Buyout
Gleason
mbow30
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another guy who might be available is o'reilly, who needs to be qualified at 6.5.
he shifted to the wing this year to make room in the top six for mackinnon, but he's strong on the draw and was basically used as a centre in the d-zone. he also put up similar numbers to stastny (4 more points in 9 more gp).
at 23, he also has some room for growth. and the fact that he can bounce between LW and C could make him a useful fit here beside Kadri, who could use a defensive minded LW who can take tough faceoffs...
he shifted to the wing this year to make room in the top six for mackinnon, but he's strong on the draw and was basically used as a centre in the d-zone. he also put up similar numbers to stastny (4 more points in 9 more gp).
at 23, he also has some room for growth. and the fact that he can bounce between LW and C could make him a useful fit here beside Kadri, who could use a defensive minded LW who can take tough faceoffs...
MyNameIsJonas
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there are a number of D that i think Colorado would want off the Leafs.
And if they ever decided to move on from Dion, Avs are a team to watch.
And if they ever decided to move on from Dion, Avs are a team to watch.
Bleedsblue&white
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I wonder what happens in Leafland if Shanny decides that, whether due to contracts or philosophy, this team will have to play another year mostly as is, with the playoffs possibly a dream, but we get another top ten pick?
We have some difficult contracts for sure...it's possible that we can't do much.
We have some difficult contracts for sure...it's possible that we can't do much.
Pronger84
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I agree and disagree with your trade/free agent ideas:
1. Trading Oduywa for a pick? sure why not
2. Disagree with that- You'd be trading a bunch of assets for the 3rd overall pick but how can you be sure the player you want will still be available? It's a huge gamble and not worth losing all those assets for
3. No problems with trading Bozak, espically if a guy like Statsny or even Staal can be acquired
4. I'm not a big fan of signing Jagr due to his age, but hey if he's signed it wouldn't be the worst thing this team has done
5. I'd love to get Iginla, makes perfect sense to sign him to a two year bridge deal. It would allow for younger guys to develop in the Marlies and not be rushed up here, ala a Detroit. However, he wants to win a cup and the Leafs are nowhere ready to win one in the next 2-5 years... I don't think he signs here even if you back up the brinks truck at his house.
6. No thanks to Markov, IMO he's just not the right fit here and he's extremely injury prone
7. Bring on Statsny, he would bolster this team down the middle.
8. Why in the **** would u buy out Gleason? He has two years left on his deal, granted he's overpaid a bit BUT he's the exact type of player the Leafs need.
leafman101
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Gleason is overpaid. That is exactly why. You save over $3 mill a year the next 2 season and its only a $833k cap hit.
I don't have much interest in paying a #6/7 dman $4 mill a year, especially when we have young, cheap depth at the position.
I don't have much interest in paying a #6/7 dman $4 mill a year, especially when we have young, cheap depth at the position.
Pronger84
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I get that he's overpaid, but with the cap going up bottom pairing guys are making that kind of dough... hell just look at Macdonald who's making $6M a season over the next 5 years.
Gleason brings intanigbles to this team that we badly lack, and its not like he's tied up for long term, he's got 2 years left and him being here for another 1-2 years allows guys in the Marlies to further develop their games and not be rushed to join the club.
leafman101
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Bottom pairing dmen aren't making that type of money. He is making very good 2nd pair money, and he might not even be in our top 6. He was pretty bad down the stretch.
That money can be better spend elsewhere, which has to be a major factor in a cap world.
At the very least it can be spent on a better version of Gleason like Morris or Mitchell.
That money can be better spend elsewhere, which has to be a major factor in a cap world.
At the very least it can be spent on a better version of Gleason like Morris or Mitchell.
Leafin'
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I like the team. Not perfect.
Clarkson i doubt is getting traded. I love Iginla and what he could bring to this team. He was who i hoped we could've signed instead of that suckass Clarkson. Jagr same deal.
Markov, not a fan. Oduya, same thing. Gleason i would buy out. But to just get it right, its a $833k Cap hit for the next 4 years? I like what Gleason had brought to the table early on, but he sh*t the bed at the end. Tough call as the entire team was junk.
Stastny i like, i think he might get a bit more than 6.5.
Clarkson i doubt is getting traded. I love Iginla and what he could bring to this team. He was who i hoped we could've signed instead of that suckass Clarkson. Jagr same deal.
Markov, not a fan. Oduya, same thing. Gleason i would buy out. But to just get it right, its a $833k Cap hit for the next 4 years? I like what Gleason had brought to the table early on, but he sh*t the bed at the end. Tough call as the entire team was junk.
Stastny i like, i think he might get a bit more than 6.5.
Stastny will get stupid money as he is the best forward available in the market , the Leafs can free up money to get him but are you going to play Bozak as # 3 if you retain Kadri , something has to give .
Bolland I wouldnt give more than 3 years , so he is leaving for the the best offer handed to him.
Pronger84
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We need to get much better down the middle faceoff wise, last year it looked like this- Bozak (48.7%), Kadri (45.2%), Bolland (45.1%), Holland (46.7%), Mcclement (53.6%). Only one of those guys had a winning faceoff % and he was our 4th line C, bottom line is you wont' win many games when you have to resort to chasing the puck more often then not.
Statsny would be a solid acquistion, forget about the point totals for a second here... the guy won 54.1% of his draws last season and in the previous 5 years he has averaged higher then 50% in each season... this is the kind of guy we need to have anchoring the top line.
As for Kadri, someone has to sit that kid down and teach him the art of HOW to win a faceoff, if he's gonna be our 2C then he has to learn to improve in that area.
Bolland's an interesting subject, the guy reaks on faceoffs, ironic given he's a supposed shut down centre BUT on the other hand the guy when healthy is gifted at shutting down the other team's best players and is clutch when it comes to the playoffs. I'd actually switch him to wing, and I'd offer him no more then a 2 year deal worth about 3-3.25 per, until he can show me he remains healthy I don't offer him more then that bridge deal.
I can't harp on this enough, puck possession is won off the faceoffs, the more you win them the more you have the puck... the more you lose the more time you spend chasing the puck around trying to get it back, this is a big time area I feel that the Leafs need to upgrade/improve on.
Bleedsblue&white
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If they manage to trade Clarkson, our GM is elevated to God Emperor.
I'd like Stastny here too.
Wayward DP
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I hope we have McLaren locked up too
Metalleaf
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We do. 1 more year at $700K.