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OT: American Politics

Our brave Canadian troops were dying in the streets of Paris to stop the Nazis while Americans decided for years to join the fight.
 
JackBurton said:
Our brave Canadian troops were dying in the streets of Paris to stop the Nazis while Americans decided for years to join the fight.
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Let's also not forget that they only joined the fight after they were attacked themselves, and after Nazi Germany and the Empire of Japan had both already declared war on them.

It's not like they nobly and selflessly rushed to the defense of their allies in Europe.
 
The American spin they saved everyone is ridiculous. They sat on their asses for years.
God bless our brave Canadian troops.
 
Sam Levine @srl
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Federal judge orders Gwinnett County to count absentee ballots where voters omitted their birth year. Requiring a voter to provide their birth year on an absentee ballot is not "material" to assessing their qualifications as an absentee voter

(Georgia)



amazing the excuses republicans use to throw out votes.

vote suppression should be the Dems #1 topic.
 
Maggie Haberman
@maggieNYT
Ted OLSON, who Trump praised in one of his Fla tweets and who Trump tried repeatedly to hire for his own personal legal team (Olson said no), is repping CNN in suit against the White House re Acosta hard pass.


Tom Namako @TomNamako
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.@PressSec now seems to change her explanation for banning @Acosta. First it was about “placing his hands” on an intern.

Now it’s about an attempt to "monopolize the floor.”
 
zeke said:
The Independent @Independent
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Angela Merkel calls for creation of 'real, true' EU army
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Vlad may have overplayed his hand with the Trump friendship/support. Nothing is worse for Russia's geopolitical goals than a militarily revitalized Europe. An economy 11x the size of the Russian economy with all the knowledge and manufacturing base necessary to turn out a really, really modern military in a hurry.

Trump didn't want this (thus the tantrum), he wanted his protection money. Vlad didn't want this, he wants European instability.
 
yep. calling the dotard's bluff, and now he's panicking.

what europe really should do is try to ramp up arms PRODUCTION. if they stop buying american military equipment that really hurts america.
 
zeke said:
yep. calling the dotard's bluff, and now he's panicking.

what europe really should do is try to ramp up arms PRODUCTION. if they stop buying american military equipment that really hurts america.
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That's gotta be the end game for any legit EU military force. Between France and Germany doing design work, and German engineering/manufacturing in cheaper labour eastern EU countries, I don't think it would take that long for the EU to be able to legitimately counter current Russian tech. They don't need to be able to "fight" the US, some level of sanity is likely to prevail when Trump loses in 2020. But being their own muscle against Russia changes the math tremendously and is Russia's worst reasonable outcome from this roll of the dice.

That's the problem with trying to foment instability, a lot of times it just leads to resolve and animosity.
 
Trump tries to work the rules of the game to their absolute limit.

He just doesn't realize that unlike the real estate or tv game, the rules in international politics are temporary and rely totally on faith and trust, especially faith in America as an honest broker. He just doesn't realize that his idiocy risks fundamentally changing those rules forever. At least he may be finally realizing that the rules of the game actually benefit America more than anyone, and aren't "unfair" to America as he ludicrously claims.
 
Quote from Macron: "The big mistake would be for Europeans to increase budgets to buy American or other arms. If we increase our budget, it's to build our autonomy".
 
zeke said:
Trump tries to work the rules of the game to their absolute limit.

He just doesn't realize that unlike the real estate or tv game, the rules in international politics are temporary and rely totally on faith and trust, especially faith in America as an honest broker. He just doesn't realize that his idiocy risks fundamentally changing those rules forever. At least he may be finally realizing that the rules of the game actually benefit America more than anyone, and aren't "unfair" to America as he ludicrously claims.
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In my experience, the vast majority of Americans, even anti Trump Americans, have a really really poor grasp of just how lopsided the relationship between the world and the US is, and how much the US benefits from the established systems (which of course, they built as is for a reason)
 
MindzEye said:
In my experience, the vast majority of Americans, even anti Trump Americans, have a really really poor grasp of just how lopsided the relationship between the world and the US is, and how much the US benefits from the established systems (which of course, they built as is for a reason)
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yep.
 
BeLeafer said:
That's my guess. Although it's likely a cynical move by the Pelosi types to help prevent challenges to her position. Let's see how far it goes if she becomes speaker again.
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A was mulling this over and think this is probably a natural reaction to Trump clearly and finally exposing the GOP's blatantly anti-democratic modus operandi.

It's no longer hidden - more people can clearly see now what's at stake.
 
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
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The story in the New York Times concerning North Korea developing missile bases is inaccurate. We fully know about the sites being discussed, nothing new - and nothing happening out of the normal. Just more Fake News. I will be the first to let you know if things go bad!
 
Brandt @UrbanAchievr
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for all the talk about how Trump supposedly plays the press like a fiddle, it's worth noting that the media has backed Trump into defending secret North Korean missile bases
 
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