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OT: American Politics

our minister of defence clearly has proof.

and you're a moron or you are an iranian sympathizer if you honestly believe there isnt enough to suggest that iran is supporting assad, and hamas, and hezbollah. my god, how stupid could you be to even suggest otherwise.
 
Hilarious.

You truly are a walking piece of cognitive dissonance and self-delusion. There is zero proof that Iran has been involved in Afghanistan at any level. You trying to paint them as a greater threat than Pakistan, a failed nation state that funds the Taliban and actually has access to nuclear weapons, is evident of your disconnect from reality and general idiocy.

You're a true moron.
 
sorry, jcy. you are completely and totally out to lunch on this one. you're a lunatic if you think iran isn't trying to destabilize every force in that region that they feel is hostile to them or that supports the long term interests of the US in creating a stable middle east that is hostile to iranian theocracy. you appear to know more than our own minister of defence, or the prime minister of israel, or even the new president of egypt who have all identified iran's role in supporting hostile elements in the region, be they shia or sunni.

heck- even your own boy hopeychange has identified iran as a hostile entity that is behind much of the chaos in the region.

it is nonsensical that in 2012 anyone would have to defend the argument that iran is up to no good across much of the middle east.
 
i think canadians should be fiercely proud of our foreign policy under stephen harper. no more noodle-backed nods to foreign dictators, no more trying to be the world's boy scout, no preening to fool ourselves into believing that everyone in the world loves us because we're so nice and polite. finally, a realistic foreign policy that stands up for canadian interests and signals to our friends and allies that we support them.

iran has killed canadian citizens. purposely. both in iran and in afghanistan. they have overtly supported our enemies in afghanistan and provided them with weapons and training that have resulted in the deaths of our soldiers. they are working to destroy the only liberal democracy in the region, and a strong ally of canada. they made the right move to cut off diplomatic ties. especially after 7 british diplomats were held hostage earlier this year and after one of our former ambassadors warned that iran doesn't respect diplomatic niceties like most other nations do. our people there were probably not secure, and this sends a strong message about where we stand against a brutal dictatorship.

what friend have we supported by pulling out of Iran?
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

everyone is self interested. you are only a narcissist if you take it to the extreme to believe that ultimately EVERYTHING is about you, and that your pleasures, wants, and desires trump everything else. kinda like what jcy said when he said his "right to self-determination" trumped every other consideration.
 
thats right. the country that hopeychange left with their dicks in their hands when he pulled out of missile defence for a meaningless and as-yet-to-be-fruitful "reset" with russia.
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

you said that your own "right to self determination" trumps all other considerations. its not 'cognitive dissonance'. own what you said.
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

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*many sighs*

The cognitive dissonance has nothing to do with what I said specifically. It has everything to do with you making a parody of yourself and being consistently hypocritical to everyone around you without realizing it, and then using your hamster wheel mind to justify it somehow and create this situation where you're entirely right and everyone else must be crazy.

And the scary thing is that you don't even realize that you're doing it.
 
Re: OT: Canadian Politics

And you're right, in modern Western democratic liberal societies the right of the individual person does trump all other factors. I'm happy that you finally realize it.

It's why there is a Bill of Rights and a Charter of Rights and Freedoms. To protect the individual and their inalienable rights.
 
as for the executions.....increasing drone strikes on terroriist targets is exactly the way you avoid engaging in wasteful miliary engagements in unwinnable wars aka military occupations for the purpose of corporate profits.
"Terrorist targets" = any male 18-15 or anyone nearby (often including women, children and first aid of the original victims). It's called mass murder. But, hey, he's black and a democrat ... so it must be okay.
 
What the **** are you talking about? Pakistan is the problem in that region, not Iran. And what evidence do you have that Iran was killing Canadians? That's the first I've ever seen any connection made between Afghanistan and Iran.

You think a predominantly Shia Islam state is going to go out of its way to destabilize its own borders just for the sake of a few hated Sunnis?

If you don't think Iran is a problem in that region as well as Pakistan then there really is no point discussing it. It will only turn into mudslinging.

As far as Canada's severing ties, I believe it is predominantly due to Iran's march to nuclear weaponry.
 
Christ you're dense.

You have zero means to prove any of that and it's entirely antithetical to the geopolitics of the region. It's about as outlandish and incorrect as the threat of WMD's from Iraq.

Actually, it's well-known that Iran has centrifuges and is attempting to create nuclear weaponry. UN investigators are now banned from regions in Iran because they found out about it.
 
seriously, though, how ridiculous is this man?

http://presspass.nbcnews.com/_news/...ton-helped-elevate-democratic-convention?lite

Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney embraced Bill Clinton's speech this week at the Democratic National Convention, saying the former president's speech — which was full of criticism of Romney — helped "elevate" Democrats' convention.

In his interview airing Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," Romney praised the Wednesday night speech by the Democratic ex-president, which ridiculed Romney and Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan on issues ranging from fiscal policy to Medicare......
 
"Terrorist targets" = any male 18-15 or anyone nearby (often including women, children and first aid of the original victims). It's called mass murder. But, hey, he's black and a democrat ... so it must be okay.

meh, I'd be surprised if any of the targets hadn't expressly espoused affiliation with terrorist organizations threatening U.S. citizens.

as for collateral damages, far less with drone strikes than with war.
 
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