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OT: American Politics

Wayward DP said:
even Krugman is surprisingly optimistic in his sub-stack.

the point he makes though, which is fair, is that other autogolpes relied upon economic growth early on the make it easier to seize power, destroy institutions, etc. but, because dotard is destroying the American economy so quickly, there may be pushback against his authoritarian agenda cause the economy is so shitty.

me, I am less optimistic. think the democracy ship has left the port, and if we're lucky, it may return sometime in our lives. but no time soon.
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From whom, I’d ask? the only hope for pushback left, imo, is the people.

And it probably has to get kinda dark first there.
 
lecoqsportif said:
I’m not as optimistic either. There’s a nihilistic streak to MAGA that is willing to endure some ongoing pain and (massive) cognitive dissonance to hurt other people.

They want “revenge” for something, and might be willing to bear a cost.
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They have been convinced life was bad already.
 
IMO, this shit is depressing as real people are and will continue to get hurt, but nobody knows how it will all shake out.

From the article I linked

>>Nothing in politics is permanent, and nothing is inevitable. The scholar Timothy Snyder warns against “anticipatory obedience” to tyranny, and fatalism can be its own form of capitulation. Even a gutted democracy can always come back from the dead. “In that sense, ‘How Democracies Die’ is actually a terrible metaphor,” Levitsky told me. “Everything is reversible.” In these frantic days, he sounds like both a Cassandra and a Pollyanna, sometimes simultaneously. “We are not El Salvador, and we are not Hungary,” he said. “We spent centuries, as a society, building up democratic muscle, and we still have a lot of that muscle left. I just keep waiting for someone to use it.”
 
Trump doesn't like nobodies like PP. For all his non-elite talk, when it comes to financial dealings, Trump likes to go against or collaborate with guys with fancy degrees and career pedigree
 
CH1 said:
Trump doesn't like nobodies like PP. For all his non-elite talk, when it comes to financial dealings, Trump likes to go against or collaborate with guys with fancy degrees and career pedigree
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He is just happy to be the centre of attention even if it hurts his "goals"
 
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