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WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
This is what Toronto sports franchises do: they implode. AA made those trades because he was desperate. Winning a WS was the only way he could save his job and he knew it. He also knew that if his gamble didn't pay off he was dead but he'd have been dead anyway if he'd done nothing. Knowing he had nothing to lose is what spurred him to make those deals. But he also probably knew that he was toast as soon as the Royals popped the champagne corks after game 6.
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Seriously, I don't get you.

First, AA did what you keep preaching here. AA wasn't THAT desperate. He he could have waited, signed another deal and continue to tweak. I think He really thought he had a chance and went for it.

I think there is a lot of bullshit in your comments. He wasn't going to be dead.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
He only went for it because he was desperate. Desperate people tend to overpay. But yeah if he'd won he could win any argument. Except he didn't win.
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No he looked at the team and all the numbers and realized they already should have been in the playoffs. They had the best run differential in MLB before the trades. Adding this year was a no brainer.
 
Guibs said:
Seriously, I don't get you.

First, AA did what you keep preaching here. AA wasn't THAT desperate. He he could have waited, signed another deal and continue to tweak. I think He really thought he had a chance and went for it.

I think there is a lot of bullshit in your comments. He wasn't going to be dead.
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Truer words have never been written. :lol
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
From what I heard on my drive to work this morning AA didn't get sacked but just turned down a contract offer.
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He's executive of the year. He's going to write his own ticket. Your rant was odd.

AA's moves at the deadline will go down as one of, if not the greatest in MLB history.

Willing to bet he's already getting offers.

Who in MLB history has had no baseball background, did free office filing for a team, and ends-up executive of the year?

The guy clearly did not want to answer to Mark Shapiro.
 
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JackBurton said:
No he looked at the team and all the numbers and realized they already should have been in the playoffs. They had the best run differential in MLB before the trades. Adding this year was a no brainer.
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Nah, he was trying to save his job. There is nothing wrong with that, but let's not make out that he was not trying to do that.
 
And by any objective measure he did more than enough to do so but it seems like Shapiro was promised full baseball control when the Jays hired him. Oops.
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
Nah, he was trying to save his job. There is nothing wrong with that, but let's not make out that he was not trying to do that.
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The numbers do say this was to year to go for it.

Yeah, it was his time to roll the dice professionally speaking, but he still would not have done that if they were playing like in 2014'.
 
Krustchev said:
And by any objective measure he did more than enough to do so but it seems like Shapiro was promised full baseball control when the Jays hired him. Oops.
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They hired Shapiro before the Jays went on that run. Clearly ownership had lost confidence in AA by then. All the playoff run did was force the Jays to make him an offer as a PR move. But if he didn't accept it you can be sure that the deal stripped him of his autonomy so it was setting him up to be the fall guy. He was correct in refusing it. He'll get another job somewhere.
 
Lotusland said:
The Peel Basin, eh? Anything there right now?
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Well the basin itself is full of water. Other than that I don't think there's much that would be missed if it were bulldozed. The only other downtown site that might work is on the old children's hospital site across the street from the Forum. A lot of buildings would have to go but that end of St Catherine is in need of rejuvenation. The main advantage of that site over the Peel Basin is that the Atwater Metro is right there. The basin isn't well served by public transit
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
They hired Shapiro before the Jays went on that run. Clearly ownership had lost confidence in AA by then. All the playoff run did was force the Jays to make him an offer as a PR move. But if he didn't accept it you can be sure that the deal stripped him of his autonomy so it was setting him up to be the fall guy. He was correct in refusing it. He'll get another job somewhere.
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I agree with this.
 
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
Well the basin itself is full of water. Other than that I don't think there's much that would be missed if it were bulldozed. The only other downtown site that might work is on the old children's hospital site across the street from the Forum. A lot of buildings would have to go but that end of St Catherine is in need of rejuvenation. The main advantage of that site over the Peel Basin is that the Atwater Metro is right there. The basin isn't well served by public transit
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not really enough room there, Dorchester would have to be closed off.
 
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