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OT: The F*cking Science Thread

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Wasn't sure where to put this, but I would like to warn anybody I can, and if it stops somebody then good.

I've mentioned the hip replacement, I don't think I mentioned that I was prescribed Oxy-neo for about a year before the surgery. Oxy-neo was the attempt to prevent people from crushing up the original oxy pills...people would snort or inject this...I will assume most of you have heard about the addiction issues, yes?

First thing- I took the pills properly, tried not to dose myself into feeling too stoned or filled with happiness, I was constantly monitoring my need for the pills and fought as hard as I could to keep the dose low...it's very easy to want(and need) more and more. I've never snorted a pill, I was in genuine pain...did everything right. (if you have no pain the addiction takes hold faster and stronger).

Immediately after surgery I halved my daily intake, then went cold turkey.
What a ****ing hell.
The anxiety and restlessness was bad, I didn't have the violent vomiting some do, but I did have a pretty bad case of insomnia. On a Monday I took one last pill, the following Saturday I was in emerge as I hadn't slept at all the entire week.
Not one minute. Started hallucinating. I was taking about 5 times the recommended dose of over the counter sleepers...nothing. They gave me something that worked, but if I take it too many days in a row I will be addicted to that and have insomnia anyways.
So I don't.
Three weeks in, I will take one here and there, when I don't I sleep 3-4 hours. The pills cause incredibly vivid and disturbing lucid dreams.
I haven't had a nightmare since I was 6, but the second day on those sleepers I was afraid to go to sleep.

Also, after a few months on the oxy, my brain was getting chemically altered, and it will be months before I feel pleasure normally again. I'm off work and I have no desire to play videogames, I don't feel like reading, I have all this time and I have to fight to do something except sit there.

This isn't a pity trip-if I hadn't taken the oxy I wouldn't have been able to work. I thought I knew what I was in for, but it's worse than that.

If your doctor tells you(or a relative, friend) you need these, go online do the research. I would say unless your pain is 8-10, you have cancer, or you're dying, stay the **** away from this sheet.
Back in the day, I may or may not have had some coke binges, stayed up for days...this was nothing like that. No sleep for a week was one of the worst experiences I can remember...and I am a cancer survivor.

I figure if one person reads this and it helps it was worth it.
Just stay away.

****ing science.
 
The worst thing was when the original oxy came out they told people it wasn't addictive. A lot of people are screwed up because of that. At least I went in with my eyes open, but I can understand how some people become junkies on this stuff.
I am not sure, if I didn't have a wife and kids to ground me, if I wouldn't have fallen into the junkie life myself.
 
Wow, pretty brutal. Sorry to hear BB&W, and hope it gets better soon.

I've never had any reason to take any pain killer stronger than an extra strength aspirin, and hope I never will.
 
Wow, that's brutal BB&W. Glad you're strong enough to not let it get way too far out of hand. Crazy that you were that careful and it still did that kind of number on you. I have a couple very close family members who have been/are addicted to prescription drugs. They destroy lives.

Good luck man.
 
I have a couple very close family members who have been/are addicted to prescription drugs. They destroy lives.

Good luck man.

I have a family member that is an oxy addict. He went to rehab but he didn't last a month afterwards. Watching him was a big part of what helped me get through it...I learned from his mistakes. His whole life revolves the pills. Watching him destroy himself is awful, but I know it helped me stay grounded.
 
I generally try to stay far, far away from any sort of painkillers. I remember my family forcing me to take T3's when I had my wisdom teeth out. The one exception would be when I broke my arm and wrist last fall, I did use hydromorphone for a few days (one of those and a big doobie and I was on cloud nine). Stories like yours BBW will only continue to fuel my aversion to painkillers.
 
Yeah I have to be in a fair bit of pain before I even take Tylenol. Even the few times I've had teeth out and broke my leg it's rare I even take one T3. Luckily for me I've never had to get into anything stronger.
 
That sucks dude.

Glad you could get all of that off your chest, hopefully just talking about the fears can help to ease your mind, even if just a little.

If you are at home healing, keep yourself in a regular routine if you can - and make sure you have plenty of visitors, as it can be an awfully lonely journey.

BG
 
Thanks BG, but seriously...I posted it so maybe someone else doesn't do it. I can't imagine what withdrawal would be like for the elderly for example, and sometimes the grandparents of the world, for example, let their doctor boss them around, or maybe they just have too much faith.

The only reason I waited is because I don't want a pity party (I hate that shit), but I decided a first person account is helpful.

Hey, sometimes the lucid dreams are not evil, and when they're not I just fly around.
That's cool.

It was that blurb on ME's post about pain blocking that made me decide to put it here, so now let's get back to ****ing science.
 
http://www.earthmagazine.org/article/ionospheric-charge-could-forewarn-earthquakes




On Jan. 12, 2010, a magnitude-7 earthquake rocked Haiti’s capital, Port-au-Prince, destroying much of the city and killing more than 200,000 people. Satellite records of atmospheric electron activity high above the island reveal an unusual pattern of behavior in the ionosphere in the months leading up to the quake — information that could be used in the future to forewarn of major earthquakes.

Scientists have long known that some minerals — quartz, for example — can produce electricity when deformed under pressure, an effect called piezoelectricity. This phenomenon has been replicated in the lab by applying stress to a slab of granite and measuring the ensuing electrical current.

“At a certain amount of stress, you start seeing a flow of electrons,” says Pierre-Richard Cornely, an electrical engineer at Eastern Nazarene College in Quincy, Mass., who presented new research on the phenomenon last December at the annual meeting of the American Geophysical Union in San Francisco, Calif. “In theory, this amount of stress can be likened to the stress inflicted on rocks leading up to an earthquake.”

New research shows that electron activity in the ionosphere in the months prior to major earthquakes could potentially be used to forewarn of an earthquake. Credit: Kathleen Cantner, AGI

In the days, weeks and months before earthquakes, intense stresses on rocks along faults can create piezoelectric effects that produce free positive ions. When released into the atmosphere, these ions rise upward under the influence of Earth’s global electromagnetic field.

“Positive ions can travel upward at speeds of 20 to 30 meters per second,” says Friedemann Freund, a physicist at NASA at Moffett Field, Calif., who was not involved with the new study. The ions travel until they reach the ionosphere, an upper layer of the atmosphere between 85 and 600 kilometers above Earth’s surface.

Influxes of ions into the ionosphere have been well studied due to their influence on radio communications, which are impacted by ion concentrations in the ionosphere. Fluxes of solar radiation in Earth’s magnetic field can cause electrical turbulence and disrupt radio waves. Cornely’s research suggests that the same effect can also be generated by earthquakes.
 
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