OT: The News Thread
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axlsalinger
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Hard to believe that anyone with a skeleton in the closet like this got anywhere close to becoming the Pope.
Hard to believe that anyone with a skeleton in the closet like this got anywhere close to becoming the Pope.
MindzEye
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPmyry0yaQE"]YouTube- Doug Stanhope : Catholics vs Nazis[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPmyry0yaQE"]YouTube- Doug Stanhope : Catholics vs Nazis[/ame]
JaysCyYoung
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And this my friends is why tis' better to be a Protestant. Now we need to re-take the rest of Ireland back from those IRA bastards.
And this my friends is why tis' better to be a Protestant. Now we need to re-take the rest of Ireland back from those IRA bastards.
MindzEye
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They all believe in the biblical god and the zombie jesus....their minor differences are entirely besides the point, though that won't stop violence from occurring over those minor differences.
They all believe in the biblical god and the zombie jesus....their minor differences are entirely besides the point, though that won't stop violence from occurring over those minor differences.
MindzEye
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But what if I my belief is to keep my mind open to all possibilities?
What then brainiac?
Did I just blow your mind?
But what if I my belief is to keep my mind open to all possibilities?
What then brainiac?
Did I just blow your mind?
JaysCyYoung
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Rangers > Celtic
William of Orange > James II
Londonderry > Derry
Rangers > Celtic
William of Orange > James II
Londonderry > Derry
Artnes
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I am working night shift and I am running on 4 hours sleep in 2 days Stop ****in with my head.
I am working night shift and I am running on 4 hours sleep in 2 days Stop ****in with my head.
axlsalinger
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hockeylover
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Quebec niqab bill would make Muslim women unveil
Landmark bill would make women unveil if they want access to public services
MONTREAL–Quebec Premier Jean Charest and his cabinet have introduced sweeping legislation that effectively bars Muslim women from receiving or delivering public services while wearing a niqab.
According to the draft law, they would not be able to consult a doctor in a hospital, for example, or even attend classes in a university.
"Two words: Uncovered face," Charest told reporters during a press conference in Quebec City.
"The principle is clear."
However, Charest reaffirmed the right to wear other religious symbols, such as crosses, skullcaps or headscarves, which was met by some as evidence of hypocrisy and discrimination.
Some critics say the legislation could prevent women from integrating into Quebec society. "Mr. Charest is talking about welcoming people from different backgrounds and that this is going to unite us," said Shama Naz, a niqab-wearing woman who lives in the municipality of Kirkland on the island of Montreal.
"This is actually going to isolate people."
The 33-year-old mother of two young girls, a native of Pakistan, predicts women will be discouraged from going to a doctor, to school or work.
"It will isolate them from basic rights as human beings," said Naz.
The niqab is a veil worn by a small number of Muslim women that allows only their eyes to be visible. It's estimated there are "a few dozen" such women living on the island.
Charest explained that the legislation, Bill 94, demands a face in plain view, for reasons of identification, security and communication.
He further clarified that even public-service employees who do not interact with the public – the majority of the provincial bureaucracy – would also not be permitted to wear the niqab.
The province will hold public hearings on the draft legislation.
Though issues of so-called "reasonable accommodation" of religious differences elicit breathless coverage in the media, cases are few and far between.
Only 10 of more than 118,000 visits to the health board's Montreal office in 2008-09 involved niqab-wearers asking for special dispensation. Ontario has moved in the opposite direction of Quebec.
Accommodations are made for women in niqabs, said Geetika Bhardwaj, senior communications advisor to Government Services Minister Harinder Takhar.
Women can go into an interview room and have an identification photo taken by a female staff member. Or, a picture can be taken in a private location by a female agent. "If there is not a private interview room or a private location, a screen can be erected in order to obscure the photo subject from public view," Bhardwaj said.
And, in the Toronto area, health-care appointments can be made after hours, a system that will soon be extended across the province and will include health cards and driver's licences.
Critics of the niqab say they subjugate women and their right to equality.
After a woman was removed this month from a French-language class for refusing to remove her niqab, Christine St-Pierre, Quebec's minister responsible for the status of women, called niqabs "ambulatory prisons."
On Wednesday, St-Pierre said Quebec was a "world leader" when it comes to gender equality, and with Bill 94, "we prove it once again."
The legislation doesn't stop at driver's licence or health card offices. It encompasses nearly every public and para-public institution as well, including universities, school boards, hospitals, community health and daycare centres.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/785036--quebec-niqab-bill-would-make-muslim-women-unveil?bn=1
Quebec niqab bill would make Muslim women unveil
Landmark bill would make women unveil if they want access to public services
MONTREAL–Quebec Premier Jean Charest and his cabinet have introduced sweeping legislation that effectively bars Muslim women from receiving or delivering public services while wearing a niqab.
According to the draft law, they would not be able to consult a doctor in a hospital, for example, or even attend classes in a university.
"Two words: Uncovered face," Charest told reporters during a press conference in Quebec City.
"The principle is clear."
However, Charest reaffirmed the right to wear other religious symbols, such as crosses, skullcaps or headscarves, which was met by some as evidence of hypocrisy and discrimination.
Some critics say the legislation could prevent women from integrating into Quebec society. "Mr. Charest is talking about welcoming people from different backgrounds and that this is going to unite us," said Shama Naz, a niqab-wearing woman who lives in the municipality of Kirkland on the island of Montreal.
"This is actually going to isolate people."
The 33-year-old mother of two young girls, a native of Pakistan, predicts women will be discouraged from going to a doctor, to school or work.
"It will isolate them from basic rights as human beings," said Naz.
The niqab is a veil worn by a small number of Muslim women that allows only their eyes to be visible. It's estimated there are "a few dozen" such women living on the island.
Charest explained that the legislation, Bill 94, demands a face in plain view, for reasons of identification, security and communication.
He further clarified that even public-service employees who do not interact with the public – the majority of the provincial bureaucracy – would also not be permitted to wear the niqab.
The province will hold public hearings on the draft legislation.
Though issues of so-called "reasonable accommodation" of religious differences elicit breathless coverage in the media, cases are few and far between.
Only 10 of more than 118,000 visits to the health board's Montreal office in 2008-09 involved niqab-wearers asking for special dispensation. Ontario has moved in the opposite direction of Quebec.
Accommodations are made for women in niqabs, said Geetika Bhardwaj, senior communications advisor to Government Services Minister Harinder Takhar.
Women can go into an interview room and have an identification photo taken by a female staff member. Or, a picture can be taken in a private location by a female agent. "If there is not a private interview room or a private location, a screen can be erected in order to obscure the photo subject from public view," Bhardwaj said.
And, in the Toronto area, health-care appointments can be made after hours, a system that will soon be extended across the province and will include health cards and driver's licences.
Critics of the niqab say they subjugate women and their right to equality.
After a woman was removed this month from a French-language class for refusing to remove her niqab, Christine St-Pierre, Quebec's minister responsible for the status of women, called niqabs "ambulatory prisons."
On Wednesday, St-Pierre said Quebec was a "world leader" when it comes to gender equality, and with Bill 94, "we prove it once again."
The legislation doesn't stop at driver's licence or health card offices. It encompasses nearly every public and para-public institution as well, including universities, school boards, hospitals, community health and daycare centres.
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/785036--quebec-niqab-bill-would-make-muslim-women-unveil?bn=1
JaysCyYoung
Legend
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Erm...how? I didn't know that walking around in a mobile dressing room was exacting integrating people into one of the most liberal regions in one of the most liberal nations in the world. You get the opportunity to come over to this wonderful country, you make some concessions.
Erm...how? I didn't know that walking around in a mobile dressing room was exacting integrating people into one of the most liberal regions in one of the most liberal nations in the world. You get the opportunity to come over to this wonderful country, you make some concessions.
axlsalinger
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I'm all for freedom, and I know it's a cultural thing, but it's kind of mind-boggling that people would come all the way to Canada, and still want to walk around in these ridiculous beekeeper outfits. I'm with Charest on this one.
I'm all for freedom, and I know it's a cultural thing, but it's kind of mind-boggling that people would come all the way to Canada, and still want to walk around in these ridiculous beekeeper outfits. I'm with Charest on this one.
johnunit
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I'd be for it. There's a girl in one of my classes with one, and it just comes off as disconcerting and paranoid.
Most of the reasons behind it are ridiculously paranoid and backward too, and involve the implication that it is the woman's job to not attract men who would assault her, not the man's job to, uhhh, not rape every chick he likes the looks of.
As far as integration, if people don't know your face, and can only identify you be voice and height, how are you going to "integrate" into the community anyway? Sure, people will know you as the woman in the niqab, but even that goes out the window when your like-minded cousin moves to town.
What REALLY pisses me off is the (admittedly few) guys around here that parade around in short-sleeve shirts and shorts with close-cropped hair and jewlery, bordering on guido-looking, while their niqab-covered wife walks beside them.
I'd be for it. There's a girl in one of my classes with one, and it just comes off as disconcerting and paranoid.
Most of the reasons behind it are ridiculously paranoid and backward too, and involve the implication that it is the woman's job to not attract men who would assault her, not the man's job to, uhhh, not rape every chick he likes the looks of.
As far as integration, if people don't know your face, and can only identify you be voice and height, how are you going to "integrate" into the community anyway? Sure, people will know you as the woman in the niqab, but even that goes out the window when your like-minded cousin moves to town.
What REALLY pisses me off is the (admittedly few) guys around here that parade around in short-sleeve shirts and shorts with close-cropped hair and jewlery, bordering on guido-looking, while their niqab-covered wife walks beside them.