blacksheep
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Statistics is interesting shit, but I don't hold too much value in poll results. Nevertheless, you'd think a man so hated around these parts could not have such a lead in the polls, despite their inaccuracies.
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Statistics is interesting shit, but I don't hold too much value in poll results. Nevertheless, you'd think a man so hated around these parts could not have such a lead in the polls, despite their inaccuracies.
corksens
Legend
Hudak is a terrible leader and won't ever become premiere.
But he's not the one bankrupting the province as we speak.
corksens
Legend
Sorry blacksheep, a CBC investigation talking to vocal non-Conservative supporters does not count as proof.
Proof comes from Elections Canada or the RCMP.
Dimwit.
IrishWolfman
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http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/politics/article/1146319--ontarians-oppose-olg-plan-for-more-casinos-poll-finds
It's also worth noting that the Nanos poll has a 500 person sample size which means it's worth SFA. You need at least 1,100 respondents for a respectable polling size and many pollsters will tell you that in Ontario you need more because of how regional Ontario is.
zeke
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Clooney arrested in protest at Sudanese Embassy
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Actor George Clooney, center, and Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va., left, are led to a police vehicle after being arrested during a protest at the Sudan Embassy in Washington, Friday, March 16, 2012. The demonstrators are protesting the escalating humanitarian emergency in Sudan that threatens the lives of 500,000 people. (AP Photo/Cliff Owen)
WASHINGTON — Actor George Clooney and his father have been arrested at a protest outside the Sudanese Embassy in Washington.
The protesters accuse Sudan's president, Omar al-Bashir, of provoking a humanitarian crisis and blocking food and aid from entering the Nuba Mountains in the county's border region with South Sudan.
Clooney, his father, Nick and others, including Democratic U.S. Rep. Jim Moran of Virginia and civil rights leader Ben Jealous, were arrested after being warned three times not to cross a police line outside the embassy. They were handcuffed and placed into a U.S. Secret Service van.
Clooney said earlier that he hopes to draw more attention to the issue and that if action is not taken in the next three to four months "we're going to have a real humanitarian disaster."
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Actor George Clooney, center, and Rep. Jim Moran, D-Va., left, are led to a police vehicle after being arrested during a protest at the Sudan Embassy in Washington, Friday, March 16, 2012. The demonstrators are protesting the escalating humanitarian emergency in Sudan that threatens the lives of 500,000 people. (AP Photo/Cliff Owen)
WASHINGTON — Actor George Clooney and his father have been arrested at a protest outside the Sudanese Embassy in Washington.
The protesters accuse Sudan's president, Omar al-Bashir, of provoking a humanitarian crisis and blocking food and aid from entering the Nuba Mountains in the county's border region with South Sudan.
Clooney, his father, Nick and others, including Democratic U.S. Rep. Jim Moran of Virginia and civil rights leader Ben Jealous, were arrested after being warned three times not to cross a police line outside the embassy. They were handcuffed and placed into a U.S. Secret Service van.
Clooney said earlier that he hopes to draw more attention to the issue and that if action is not taken in the next three to four months "we're going to have a real humanitarian disaster."
JaysCyYoung
Legend
They just wanted his autograph.
JaysCyYoung
Legend
Dalton has some very difficult austerity measures to consider as Ontario's finances continue to go down the proverbial drain. It will require some tough decisions and the implementation of many cuts to superflous money-sucking programs.
Unfortunately, he will likely cater to his centre-left, socialist base and maintain the status quo as the province teeters on bankruptcy rather than cut anything.
HabsAddict
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If you spend some time researching prairie weather, you will find some university level research done by Canadian climatologist, you will find dramatic swings in weather patterns. Dramatic wet/dry spells and relativly great changes in temperatures. Why? The jet streams path.
This research was done long before everything was sold as "anthropogenic climate change". Reason behind this is pretty simple. Any changes in the jet stream will dramatically change the weather of a region.
Toronto winter are on the borderline of the jetstreams reach in winter. A few hundred miles north of us and we have warm air from the south, it hits us and we are freezing from Arctic air. Ditto for Europe.
It really isn't astrophysics. If you take some time read up on it, it fairly simple to understand the forces and causes. It wil also become apparent that the CO2 malarkey is.....malarkey.
Here is a link.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_oscillation
You will note that there is nothing there on "man made global warming". There will be nothing there until some agenda monger tenuously links the two and all of a sudden, it's "man made".....and people like you will buy it. Why do you think that malarkey went from "global warming" to "climate change" to "climate disruption"?
You can read the press clippings that feed the sky falling agenda warmongering.....or go deeper and further back.
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
this line of reasoning bugs me. we can't be impacting the environment because, look, the environment changes on its own.
as if the fact that the world has always been prone to wild climate swings from one age to the next is some deep, dark, hidden secret.
it's the simplistic o'reilly rationale: 'the tides come in, the tides go out... it never changes'.
that doesn't debunk the argument. are you really so naive to think that climate scientists don't take these sorts of natural swings into account? they're freakin climate scientists. this is what they study. of course they know about the ice ages, and solar flares, and whatever climactic differences have occurred throughout the billion years or however old the earth is.
as if the fact that the world has always been prone to wild climate swings from one age to the next is some deep, dark, hidden secret.
it's the simplistic o'reilly rationale: 'the tides come in, the tides go out... it never changes'.
that doesn't debunk the argument. are you really so naive to think that climate scientists don't take these sorts of natural swings into account? they're freakin climate scientists. this is what they study. of course they know about the ice ages, and solar flares, and whatever climactic differences have occurred throughout the billion years or however old the earth is.
HabsAddict
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I'll try to make it simple for you....
Other then pure science, there is no money attached to anyone who doesn't sell the global warming malarkey. That scientist will NEVER get a penny form the solar/wind industry by telling us "the sun did it". No watermelons environmentalists are going to sing his praises or pay him to attend their next conference. No leftist government will want to hear his "sun did it and you can't tax people".
So who do I believe? The "scientist" who came to a wind association lecture and made $5,000 a day telling me the sky is falling? The "scientist" who screams the end of the earth is around the corner and I have to buy his book to find out why? Or the guy who is not going to make a dime?
It's so obvious, but unfortunately, YOU can't gurgle common sense.
SundinsTooth
Leafs Moderator
That's fair HA but stop posting story after story from scientists that have firm connections to oil and gas. Your story will carry more weight.
HabsAddict
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Absolutely.
Did I ever say that we shouldn't research climate? EVER? What I have always said is that climate research should NOT be funded through an agenda.
For example.....when I mention tree ring research. Instead of looking at the raw data and try to figure out the causes, SOME agenda "scientist" take those numbers and massage them until they fit the agenda. Three decimal accuracy on tree rings is an absolute joke. Yet, it's thrown on the table as "climate research" and "proof" of "unprecedented climate change".
As an aside. What would you do to preserve "global warming" agenda as a "climate scientist"? If you know that there is a shift in climate caused by natural forces, you get ahead of the curve by changing the claim. That is why we went from "global warming" to "climate change" to "climate disruption". The intent is so ridiculously obvious and yet.....
corksens
Legend
Totally.
Scientists directly funded by a billion dollar industry > Scientists directly funded by a trillion dollar industry.
HabsAddict
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Where did I post those stories? Show me where. Or is that a presumption?
I don't post stories if I KNOW they are tainted. Previously, I posted on CERN, WSJ articles, this one, etc.
BTW...I avoid Wiki on global warming like the plague. It's totally biased. I have made factual changes with sources and within hours, it's changed back or into something else.
A couple of things....
One...the green industry is NOT a "pittance" industry any more. Just the "green" lobby and scaremongering players are a 10 billion dollar industry. Just GreenPeace alone is s $250 million industry. The comparison to the oil industry in size is a joke. GreenPaace doesn't produce anything other then scaremongering hot air.....versus something that is the foundation of our civilization.
Two.....any time the watermellon enviromentalist want to taint someone, they scream "oil industry" devils. So taking money from wind/solar companies is perfectly moral and good, but money form the oil industry is evil and immoral. Since when? A few months ago, some agenda mongering scientist fraudulently misrepresented himself to access a think tanks income source. It turned out that they got a few million form oil companies.......and yet the hundreds of millions solar/wind companies pour into GreenPeace and other is glossed over.
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