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OT: The News Thread

When you buy an iPhone or Galaxy S III for 50 bucks from the carrier, the carrier has loaned you $650 for the phone in exchange for you signing a 2 year contract (3 years here).
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I've never seen a 50 dollar phone.. it's closer to 200 and then the buy out is 450...you just bought the phone. I should point out that I have a cheap Samsung flip phone with pay as you go. **** contracts.
 
corksens said:
I don't agree with the supposed recent changes (I am not 100% certain) just read something a few months back when I switched to the iphone.

With that said, my real opinion sits with the excessive costs for data and minutes. Why we don't have a truly unlimited plan for say, 99 bucks, is unbelievable.

All this my-5/10, incoming calls, ect, nonsense is insane.
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Data is insanely cheap...yet they charge a ridiculous amount for it. If it was the function of a true free market I would just shrug my shoulders. But when it's a government aided triopoly, it pisses me off.
 
MindzEye said:
Data is insanely cheap...yet they charge a ridiculous amount for it. If it was the function of a true free market I would just shrug my shoulders. But when it's a government aided triopoly, it pisses me off.
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We're getting gouged on data, long distance, local minutes.
 
MindzEye said:
I don't see the connection. Either you've purchased the phone or you haven't. If you've purchased the phone (at a discounted rate) on contract, then unless the contract states clearly that you're leasing the phone or some such, you own the device itself. The service contract is entirely separate. If you don't live up to the terms of your service contract, the carriers have potential redress for that, ie/ termination of service, collections, credit reporting. The device though, should not be locked, and it should not be illegal to unlock.

The device and the contract are two separate items imo.
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corksens said:
Contracts are being written differently now. It's like a car payment. Sure you "own" the phone, but technically the carrier does until you fulfill your contract with them.
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The problem is, no matter how they word their contract, they never want that phone back. If you want out of the contract, and negotiate sending them back the phone in exchange for what's owed on it, they don't want it back.
Not even Kodoo, with their "supertab," want the phone back, despite the fact that they could repackage it as a pay-as-you-go phone for the next client.
In that respect, they shouldn't get all bent out of shape for someone unlocking something they refuse to take back anyways.
 
Visa credit card system crashed Monday afternoon, leaving Canadians to reach for their billfolds.

“The system is down for Visa credit card transactions,” said a recorded voice at CIBC customer service. “The issue is being investigated and we hope to resolve the issue as soon as possible.”
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Now's the perfect time to give your wife / girlfriend the card, and say "have fun, honey."
 
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A New Hampshire lawyer who took her daughter to Canada to videotape her having sex with a young Ontario man has been convicted of exploiting the 14-year-old to produce child pornography.

Jurors had the case for less than an hour when they convicted the 43-year-old woman of all eight counts — child sexual exploitation, transporting her child across state lines to produce child pornography and possession of child pornography.

Two men testified they had sex with the woman and with her daughter multiple times during separate encounters in 2012, one in Niagara Falls and the other at the attorney's home in Manchester, N.H. Both said the accused recorded several of the sexual encounters on a smartphone.

Kevin Watson, of Niagara Falls, Ont., testified Wednesday that he spent a long weekend in May, 2012 with the mother and daughter in a motel room in Niagara Falls. He said he met the girl online and that they had sexually explicit Skype sessions before the rendezvous about three weeks after the girl's 14th birthday.

Watson, 20, said the woman told him it was her daughter's first time having intercourse, and videotaped that and other sexual encounters during the weekend.

Police told him they would not press charges of having sex with a minor and making child pornography if he testified in the U.S. against the woman, Watson told the court.

Brandon Ore of Lebanon, N.H., testified he met the mother and daughter after responding to a personals ad placed by "two girls, 18 and 33, looking to party." He ultimately moved in with them in July of 2012, and said it was weeks later that he learned they were mother and daughter, and that the girl was 14.

He moved out two months later and turned himself in to police, triggering the lawyer's arrest.

The final prosecution witness Thursday was FBI agent James Scripture, a computer forensic examiner. He testified that all the sexually-explicit videos the jury saw Wednesday were on the defendant's computer, including some that were uploaded from her iPhone.

He said the video of the defendant performing sex acts on her daughter was created May 18, 2012 — a week before their sexual encounter with Watson.

The woman was a member of, and had advocated for, the Alliance Defending Freedom — an anti-gay Christian group.
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Taking your 14yr-old daughter to Canada so she can bust her cherry on video, no prob. But those gays.... they gotta be stopped!
 
MindzEye said:
If I own it, then what my plans are for the device are none of the carriers concern aslong as I don't breach the contract. But if what Corks is saying is the new industry standards...that's different, because you don't actually own the phone until it's paid off. In effect, they're putting a lien on the phone until the contract is honoured in full.
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I know a few friends that unlock and switch phones (different carriers). Same contract different phones.

Not sure why it needs to be illegal...just make it in the contract then.
 
johnunit said:
1. How many times do I have to say that it's done and on to the next issue?

2. You rant in here all the time about people you feel have been too lightly sentenced, yet when it's a politician you support, someone who disagrees with the judges has "no respect for the judicial system." I'm doing the EXACT same thing you do when you bemoan short sentences for offenders.
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Game, set and match
 
Some people just don't have enough shit to do with their own lives.

feathers and head dresses is meant in good fun...if a dude shows up handing out smallpox blankets, then that's racist.
 
Everyone is racist to a point, even people who are touting positive attributes like "brothers have more soul, dance better, have longer schlongs"

The line in the sand is whether your chauvinism is actually hurting people. That's why institutional racism is much worse than some old cab driver ranting about such and such.
 
Racism is likely derived from a built-in biological safeguard to be naturally suspicious of those different than you. But like CH1 said, it's really only truly problematic when it's state-sanctioned.

A costume party on someone's birthday though? Who cares? I'm half-Irish and people "appropriate" my culture and stereotype it every year on March 17th. Doesn't bother me in the least bit.
 
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