OT: The News Thread

[MindzEye]

I definitely judge folks driving their spotless trucks around the city.

I also have friends who live in the country with trucks, and use them heavily. They make sense for them. Not for the majority of the city folk who use them for bullying pedestrians though.

Municipalities should be able to levy a weight per axle tax on vehicles registered to an address within their jurisdiction over "X". They force larger, less efficient parking lot design, they're harder on the roads themselves, more dangerous to drive around for sensible passenger vehicles, etc.

As a general rule, I'm kind of fucking tired of people downloading the externalities of their non essential choices onto the rest of society. We subsidize the shit out of suburban lifestyle. If people living in the city want to drive their trucks, have at it, but pay the higher societal costs of that decision out of your own pocket.

 

[Neurospasm]

Municipalities should be able to levy a weight per axle tax on vehicles registered to an address within their jurisdiction over "X". They force larger, less efficient parking lot design, they're harder on the roads themselves, more dangerous to drive around for sensible passenger vehicles, etc.

As a general rule, I'm kind of fucking tired of people downloading the externalities of their non essential choices onto the rest of society. We subsidize the shit out of suburban lifestyle. If people living in the city want to drive their trucks, have at it, but pay the higher societal costs of that decision out of your own pocket.

Let me preface this by saying that I hate unnecessary trucks and agree with the hazards that you mention.

That being said, it’s a slippery slope to go down. What’s to stop Joe truck driver from saying that he doesn’t want to have to pay for any other amenities of the city that he’s not using?

 

[worm]

Let me preface this by saying that I hate unnecessary trucks and agree with the hazards that you mention.

That being said, it’s a slippery slope to go down. What’s to stop Joe truck driver from saying that he doesn’t want to have to pay for any other amenities of the city that he’s not using?

Bylaws are stopping them

 

[lecoqsportif]

I definitely judge folks driving their spotless trucks around the city.

I also have friends who live in the country with trucks, and use them heavily. They make sense for them. Not for the majority of the city folk who use them for bullying pedestrians though.

But, but, but… have you been to the Costco? The parking lot is mad max. And gawd knows ya need an F150 to pick up the 2000 pack of TP and the extreme family pack of frozen quesadillas.

 

[Wayward DP]

But, but, but… have you been to the Costco? The parking lot is mad max. And gawd knows ya need an F150 to pick up the 2000 pack of TP and the extreme family pack of frozen quesadillas.

heh. funny you mention costco. I try to only go within about an hour of closing on weeknights. have a trip planned tonight.

also, their self-scan is offensively inefficient. truthfully, the only self-scan worth using is Superstore's (Loblaw)

 

[MindzEye]

That being said, it’s a slippery slope to go down. What’s to stop Joe truck driver from saying that he doesn’t want to have to pay for any other amenities of the city that he’s not using?

It's one thing to pay for the education of someone's child despite you being childless, there's an obvious net benefit to the society we all exist in when people's children grow up to not be stabby violent criminals. You'll see pretty common societal benefits for most things paid for on the muni level (trash collection, public parks, safe drinking water, etc)

Where is the shared benefit in all of us paying to help Joe Truck Driver to rock up to Sobey's in 2800lb per axle because he's 5'6 and secretly doesn't feel like a real man without being behind the wheel of his truck? For clarity...I'm not saying that he shouldn't be allowed to cruise the timmies drive through for his dub-dub in way too much vehicle, just that we should quantify the cost of his vanity and make him pay for it.

If Joe's argument is "well fuck you then, I don't want to pay for your clean water"

Well, then move fucko.

 

[MindzEye]

funny you mention costco. I try to only go within about an hour of closing on weeknights. have a trip planned tonight.

I have taken to only using instacart for any of my costco "needs". Costs a few bucks, but not having to deal with the costco experience and time waste is worth it.

 

[Wayward DP]

I have taken to only using instacart for any of my costco "needs". Costs a few bucks, but not having to deal with the costco experience and time waste is worth it.

I cannot accept the fucking absurd markups for Instacart. Maybe one day in a few years that will change, as that has generally been the trend as I age. Not quite there yet though.

Also I don't know if Costco is available via Instacart here, but it has admittedly been years since I had any interactions with Instacart.

Plus, I figure Halifax Costco is still pretty mellow, all things considered, cause Maritimers are still pretty chill. Usually by the time I am paying I spend less than five minutes in line.

 

[Neurospasm]

It's one thing to pay for the education of someone's child despite you being childless, there's an obvious net benefit to the society we all exist in when people's children grow up to not be stabby violent criminals. You'll see pretty common societal benefits for most things paid for on the muni level (trash collection, public parks, safe drinking water, etc)

Where is the shared benefit in all of us paying to help Joe Truck Driver to rock up to Sobey's in 2800lb per axle because he's 5'6 and secretly doesn't feel like a real man without being behind the wheel of his truck? For clarity...I'm not saying that he shouldn't be allowed to cruise the timmies drive through for his dub-dub in way too much vehicle, just that we should quantify the cost of his vanity and make him pay for it.

If Joe's argument is "well fuck you then, I don't want to pay for your clean water"

Well, then move fucko.

I get it but you probably realize that many of the people you are talking about overlap the freedumb crowd as well.

 

[MindzEye]

I get it but you probably realize that many of the people you are talking about overlap the freedumb crowd as well.

Then protest on a bridge over it. We've got real problems that we've generated with our "way of life" for the last 60-70 years and the solutions are probably going to piss a few people off. Fuck'em.

 

[manny]

Let me preface this by saying that I hate unnecessary trucks and agree with the hazards that you mention.

That being said, it’s a slippery slope to go down. What’s to stop Joe truck driver from saying that he doesn’t want to have to pay for any other amenities of the city that he’s not using?

Suburbanites are not subsidizing services for city folk. If anything it’s the other way around.

My house in an urban centre is taxed at 2-3X whatever Trucknuts in Farrhaven pays for his place on a bigger lot where all the city’s infrastructure spending goes. Seriously, it costs the same amount for a new highway overpass and off ramp near my place (which Trucknuts is going to use more than I am anyway) as it does to widen a 2km stretch of some suburban road I’ve never heard of and will never go near.

 

[Wayward DP]

Suburbs are a huge money pit

 

[MindzEye]

Suburbs are a huge money pit

Theyre the core cause for the municipal debt crisis stuff thats happened in the states over the last 20 years. They cost so much more money to service than they bring in with taxes.

 

[axlsalinger]

 

[Wayward DP]

yeah I've only had to shovel twice so far this winter season. and time number two was yesterday. very mild winter so far for us.

 

[Neurospasm]

According to a Google headline I saw, you guys have a nice polar vortex coming, enjoy.

 

[Wayward DP]

According to a Google headline I saw, you guys have a nice polar vortex coming, enjoy.

yeah going down to -25 Friday night, with a high of -16 on Saturday, which is cold for Halifax.

luckily I grew up in Ontario, where those temps are (/were?) quite normal

 

[Neurospasm]

yeah going down to -25 Friday night, with a high of -16 on Saturday, which is cold for Halifax.

luckily I grew up in Ontario, where those temps are (/were?) quite normal

That will probably feel really damn cold for you near the water though

 

[Wayward DP]

That will probably feel really damn cold for you near the water though

I can let yall know after I walk the pooch on Saturday

This morn it was air temp -12 and wind chill -20 but honestly it was not really that bad at all

 

[Habsy]

Omen?

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