Playoff GDT: Round 1, Game 2 Canes v. Senators 4/20 7:30

[jeffbear]

Sanderson appears to have iron lungs and him and Chabot never seemed to go off the ice. I guess as a Sens fan you say that's awesome and a Canes fan you say that starts to take a toll as the series goes on in any length...

I mean, Chabot could barely skate by the end of the game. Going that deep in a game trying to get by with three and a half defenders was … a choice, I guess. Thomson played less than 20 total shifts and Gilbert played more than 20 shifts less than the other vets. That’s just not sustainable and the longer that game went the less viable it became. The same will apply to the series.

On the upside for Ottawa, Green DID finally wake up and realize that Nick Cousins was killing his 3rd line and shifted Foegele onto that line. That allowed them to at least hang with Stank’s group a bit. Well, that and the fact that the refs allowed various Senators to drape themselves all over Blake without ever calling hooking/holding/water skiing.

 

[Habsy]

Sure. Everybody wants them to overturn game winning goals with that kind of justification. That’s exactly why everyone tunes in.

Never said I thought it was the right call. Just that they used that as their justification.

 

[SlapShots]

Interesting take by Mike Johnson this AM. Staal
had possession and control— he had the puck where he wanted it, why would he need to be touching it?? The control/possession is a subjective factor— to the player on ice it’s one thing, for the league/officiating it’s a different standard.

 

[jeffbear]

Never said I thought it was the right call. Just that they used that as their justification.

Wasn’t saying that you did … just pointing out how stupid it all was/is.

 

[cmaleski2]

Its nuts to me that the linesman/league office found the replays of the Staal entry definitive enough to overturn the goal. By what standard was THAT definitive? They had to make up a questionable explanation to justify calling that offsides. If you have to twist around words like possession and control, then, well, it was NOT DEFINITIVE then.

 

[Habsy]

Welcome to NHL officiating. Rinse/repeat. I’ve watched a lot of non-Habs games and the officiating is crap across the board. There’s just no telling what is and isn’t a penalty anymore. That also applies to offsides, goalie interference, icings etc. There is no uniformity whatsoever.

 

[jeffbear]

When you can make a coherent argument for and against a call being correct, then that’s textbook subjective judgement. And that’s NOT what replay is supposed to be used to address. It’s not even as stupid/silly as Nate MacKinnon’s toe dangling outside the bench door causing an offsides on review a few years ago. At least that wasn’t down to some dipstick’s opinion. It either happened or it didn’t. THAT’s what replay is for, even thought it was equally annoying.

 

[jeffbear]

Welcome to NHL officiating. Rinse/repeat. I’ve watched a lot of non-Habs games and the officiating is crap across the board. There’s just no telling what is and isn’t a penalty anymore. That also applies to offsides, goalie interference, icings etc. There is no uniformity whatsoever.

Oh, for sure. Although I would submit that when you put Jean Hebert and Francois St Laurent on the ice together in THAT building, it’s 100% going to be a terribly officiated game. Because those two have never called a decent game in that building. I get that in the NHL, your options for refs range from bad to terrible, but some things are utterly predictable.

 

[Habsy]

I agree with you regarding those two. There are others though. There might be 4 or 5 good refs out of the bunch. Few and far between.

 

[Tryamw]

I mean, Chabot could barely skate by the end of the game. Going that deep in a game trying to get by with three and a half defenders was … a choice, I guess. Thomson played less than 20 total shifts and Gilbert played more than 20 shifts less than the other vets. That’s just not sustainable and the longer that game went the less viable it became. The same will apply to the series.

On the upside for Ottawa, Green DID finally wake up and realize that Nick Cousins was killing his 3rd line and shifted Foegele onto that line. That allowed them to at least hang with Stank’s group a bit. Well, that and the fact that the refs allowed various Senators to drape themselves all over Blake without ever calling hooking/holding/water skiing.

They were the Bayda cloak of invisibility... (the Sens draped on Blake)

 

[LJG]

Its nuts to me that the linesman/league office found the replays of the Staal entry definitive enough to overturn the goal. By what standard was THAT definitive? They had to make up a questionable explanation to justify calling that offsides. If you have to twist around words like possession and control, then, well, it was NOT DEFINITIVE then.

Kind of reminds me of "depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."