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The Everything Auston Matthews thread

LeafOfFaith said:
As I said, I got no problem with Americans on the team.

But I have always had an aversion to an American being the undisputed best player that we build around. Take Kessel for example, who I said this about when we traded for him. That ended well.

JVR is just a complementary piece, and one that I really like. He's not the face of the franchise.
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kessel's problem wasn't that he's american. it's that he's kessel.
 
just read a quote from a scout who says eichel doesn't hold a candle to matthews, and matthews would have been the clear #2 in 2015 if he was born on sept 15.
 
I fully expect Matthews to have 'mixed emotion' about Toronto winning the lottery and most likely drafting him. This is normal. He grew up a Yotes fan (as rare as they are) and he's 17.

And for the reason reason Crosby didn't leave Pittsburgh when he had a chance to turn UFA, or the same reason Toews is staying long term in Chicago, or the same reason Thornton didn't try to leave SJ ... or, to a much lesser extent, Kadri just signed a 6 years deal with Toronto despite growing up a Habs fan, all that doesn't matter as long as management, the coach, and the rest of the players build this into a team he can fall in love with.

And I have total confidence in this management group that in 3, 4 years time, Toronto is a team where other players wanna come to play for, and existing players would take less $$ to stay here. When things get rolling in T.O., there's no better place to be than here for hockey players.
 
number17 said:
I fully expect Matthews to have 'mixed emotion' about Toronto winning the lottery and most likely drafting him. This is normal. He grew up a Yotes fan (as rare as they are) and he's 17.

And for the reason reason Crosby didn't leave Pittsburgh when he had a chance to turn UFA, or the same reason Toews is staying long term in Chicago, or the same reason Thornton didn't try to leave SJ ... or, to a much lesser extent, Kadri just signed a 6 years deal with Toronto despite growing up a Habs fan, all that doesn't matter as long as management, the coach, and the rest of the players build this into a team he can fall in love with.

And I have total confidence in this management group that in 3, 4 years time, Toronto is a team where other players wanna come to play for, and existing players would take less $$ to stay here. When things get rolling in T.O., there's no better place to be than here for hockey players.
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Players generally fall in love with the team that made them a millionaire first.
 
mbow30 said:
just read a quote from a scout who says eichel doesn't hold a candle to matthews, and matthews would have been the clear #2 in 2015 if he was born on sept 15.
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That's my opinion. Similar skill/size packages with Eichel being an overall average skater (fast, but awkward, not very agile) and Matthews being a very high end skater. Will make a big difference imo.
 
i don't get why people are worried about matthews bolting in 7 years. crosby, toews, doughty, etc. all won their cups in their first 7 seasons. if the leafs haven't, at the very least, been to a cup final within the next 7 years.... then they're probably better off letting the guy walk.
 
MindzEye said:
That's my opinion. Similar skill/size packages with Eichel being an overall average skater (fast, but awkward, not very agile) and Matthews being a very high end skater. Will make a big difference imo.
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it's high priase. even if he's JUST an eichel, eichel put up a 25 goal 60 point rookie season, as a teenager. i'll take that.
 
Age 17
Auston Matthews - USNDPU18 - 20 gp, 12 gls, 17 pts, 0.85 ppg -- - USNDPU17 - 24 gp, 12 gls, 33 pts, 1.38 ppg -- - U18 - 7 gp, 5 gl, 7 pts, 1 ppg
Jack Eichel - USNDPU18 - 22 gp, 10 gls, 18 pts, 0.82 ppg -- - USNDPU17 - 36 gp, 19 gls, 34 pts, 0.94 ppg -- - U18 - 7 gp, 1 gl, 2 pts, 0.29 ppg

Age 17
Auston Matthews - USNDP - 60 gp, 55 gls, 116 pts, 1.93 ppg -- - U18 - 7 gp, 8 gls, 15 pts, 2.14 ppg -- - U20 - 5 gp, 1 gl, 3 pts, 0.6 ppg
Jack Eichel - USNDP - 53 gp, 35 gls, 87 pts, 1.64 ppg -- - U18 - 7 gp, 5 gls, 10 pts, 1.42 ppg -- - U20 - 5 gp, 1 gl, 5 pts, 1.0 ppg

Age 18
Auston Matthews - U20 - 7 gp, 7 gls, 11 pts, 1.57 ppg
Jack Eichel -U20 - 5 gp, 1 gl, 4 pts, 0.9 ppg

He's been better at every level.
 
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leafman101 said:
Age 17
Auston Matthews - USNDP - 60 gp, 55 gls, 116 pts, 1.93 ppg
Jack Eichel - USNDP - 53 gp, 35 gls, 87 pts, 1.64 ppg
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That's the big one for me.....in the most recent worthwhile data set we have, where we can compare the two....he absolutely crushed him.


While also being the superior two-way player (imo).
 
The leafs have that hockey trainer guy that already works with Matthews. He has worked with Tavares, and other big stars. Works on making players so nimble on their feet that they are unpredictable.

What I love about having a Matthews, is that he can play next year. We don't have to wait. And I can't bet but hope that we have ourselves a combo of Kane and Toews in Marner and Matthews. Then throw on top of that a Stamkos!!! You can trade Bozak and whatever for a Dman or Goalie (Bozak and Bernier) for Varlamov and then hope Zaitsev surprises the hell out of people and this leaf team is fighting for 7th and 8th easily.
 
What a great way to end a perfect rebuild season. Everything went exactly how we wanted, which is just remarkable.

Matthews is going to be amazing!
 
Never have I been more ashamed that some of you think I'm dumber than LOF. Holy Lord. First the guy pretty much gambled his life savings that the Leafs wouldn't get the pick. Uhhhh they had a 20% chance you moron.. And now he's mad that Matthews didn't whip his cock out and ejaculate all over the camera in his interview... Huh?

With that said, Matthews is amazing. He's about an Eichel level prospect, I would hesitate to call him better. But uh... That's pretty ****ing amazing. Him and Willy should be 50 point men next year with potential for more. Two pretty solid players injected into the lineup.

As for Stamkos.. Let's not bet on him. I really have a hard time keeping my mouth shut on these secret things but.. Let's not bet on him.
 
As for the other ridiculous thing that LOF said in his concerns that Laine might be better.. What if Provorov or Hanifin are better than the Toronto born Marner? Do we care?
 
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