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The New Division

PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
Cowen, Schenn, Phillips were all bad top 10 picks. None of them have the upside to justify high selections. You can easily pickup a player like this in FA every year for just cash.
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lol

Daniel Briere was the only first rounder better than Phillips and he was on waivers before.

Chara and Briere were probably the only better players in that draft.
 
corksens said:
Never, ever trashed the Schenn pick. Just called him for what he is, Phillips 2.0.

The difference for Cowen is that he's physically a beast. 6'5 and 230 at age 22. That's the edge.
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What edge? Schenn is 10 pounds lighter but way more physical.
 
zeke said:
come again?
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making the 2nd round because the Habs rolled over and played dead means they had a better result than a team that finished ahead of them and went to a 1st round game 7 OT against the Eastern Conference champ.
 
theREALkoreaboy said:
1. Hot Karl >> Phaneuf
2. Methot >> Gardiner
3. Cowen>= Franson
4. Gunnarsson> Phillips
5. Weircioch >> Ranger
6. Corvo = Liles/fraser

Our depth beyond #6>> yours
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Phaneuf = Karlsson
Gardiner = Methot

Gunnar = Phillips
Franson > Cowen

Ranger > Corvo
fraser = Gryba
Lilies > Wiercicoch
 
not sure what is worse, losing with half a team like we did or being up by two with a minute to go and losing in game 7.
 
All I know is that in 2011 when we went to Game 7 OT against the eventual cup winners, we didn't get much credit so not sure why Leafs should after last year's playoffs.
 
SENSible said:
Jake Gardiner is now officially the most overrated Leaf in the history of this forum and with the ridiculous homers that populate this location, that is a MASSIVE accomplishment.
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D J.Gardiner (21-22): 87gms, 7gls, 34pts, 65ht, 105bk, 21:26 (82gms, 7gls, 32pts, 61ht, 99bk) --- PLYF: 6gms, 1gls, 5pts, 13ht, 13bk, 23:01 (82gms, 14gls, 68pts, 180ht, 180bk)

How do you think he should be rated?
 
theREALkoreaboy said:
You're drunk or on meds this morning. Outside of dawg, who was overhyped by the entire hockey world as a possible generational talent, not a single one of those players was massively overhyped.

Patrick eaves was never seen by us as anything other than a nice third liner, and possible second liner
Rachunek? When he was playing well as a good top-4 D we all liked him. Nothing more. No one ever said Norris. Ever.
Prusek? Maybe the closest thing to proving your point. I never really was sold on him, but some of our press and fans thought too much of him.

Your list is ridiculous.
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hilarious.

Eaves was a 1st liner in the making, and worlds better than Steen.

Rachunek was the next great Sens dman.

Prusek was a star goalie in the making.

your memory is hilarious.
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
not sure what is worse, losing with half a team like we did or being up by two with a minute to go and losing in game 7.
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I think the worst would be finally losing your 'injured' excuse come the playoffs, yet still getting utterly dominated, outclassed, and embarassed while healthy by a Pens team that went on to be embarassed in the next round.

So dominated, outclassed, and embarassed, that your hero and captain publicly gives up on the team in the middle of a playoff series, and then sacrifices his legacy and leaves his team high and dry in the offseason, bolting for a team lower in the standings.

IMO, that would be worse.
 
I recall the saga that was Brandon Bochenski....went first round in a hockey draft to a Sens fan one year.


I stopped being that man's friend.
 
zeke said:
I think the worst would be finally losing your 'injured' excuse come the playoffs, yet still getting utterly dominated, outclassed, and embarassed while healthy by a Pens team that went on to be embarassed in the next round.

So dominated, outclassed, and embarassed, that your hero and captain publicly gives up on the team in the middle of a playoff series, and then sacrifices his legacy and leaves his team high and dry in the offseason, bolting for a team lower in the standings.

IMO, that would be worse.
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Mmm could be.
 
C N.Kadri (23): 69gms, 23gls, 51pts, 87ht, 27bk, 15:29 (82gms, 27gls, 61pts, 103ht, 32bk)
W P.Kessel (25): 130gms, 57gls, 134pts, 28ht, 44bk, 19:57 (82gms, 36gls, 85pts, 18ht, 28bk)
W J.Lupul (30): 82gms, 36gls, 85pts, 141ht, 32bk, 18:07 (82gms, 36gls, 85pts, 141ht, 32bk)

C T.Bozak (27): 119gms, 30gls, 75pts, 182ht, 57bk, 19:41 (82gms, 21gls, 52pts, 125ht, 39bk)
W J.VanRiemsdyk (24): 91gms, 29gls, 56pts, 92ht, 33bk, 17:15 (82gms, 26gls, 51pts, 83ht, 30bk)
W D.Clarkson (29): 128gms, 45gls, 70pts, 253ht, 25bk, 16:50 (82gms, 29gls, 45pts, 162ht, 16bk)

C D.Bolland (27): 111gms, 26gls, 51pts, 101ht, 56bk, 16:27 (82gms, 19gls, 38pts, 75ht, 41bk)
W N.Kulemin (27): 118gms, 14gls, 51pts, 219ht, 90bk, 15:50 (82gms, 10gls, 35pts, 152ht, 63bk)
W J.Colborne (23): 15gms, 1gls, 5pts, 31ht, 8bk, 12:10 (82gms, 6gls, 27pts, 170ht, 44bk)

C J.McClement (30): 128gms, 18gls, 34pts, 148ht, 93bk, 14:19 (82gms, 12gls, 22pts, 95ht, 60bk)
W C.Orr (31): 49gms, 2gls, 5pts, 85ht, 17bk, 6:15 (82gms, 4gls, 8pts, 142ht, 29bk)
W F.McLaren (26): 43gms, 3gls, 5pts, 59ht, 11bk, 5:09 (82gms, 6gls, 10pts, 113ht, 21bk)

C G.McKegg (21): -----
W C.Ashton (22): 15gms, 0gls, 0pts, 32ht, 2bk, 10:25 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 175ht, 11bk)
W J.D'Amigo (22): -----



D D.Phaneuf (28): 130gms, 21gls, 72pts, 345ht, 218bk, 25:15 (82gms, 13gls, 45pts, 218ht, 138bk)
D C.Gunnarsson (27): 113gms, 5gls, 34pts, 192ht, 223bk, 21:34 (82gms, 4gls, 25pts, 139ht, 162bk)

D J.Gardiner (23): 87gms, 7gls, 34pts, 65ht, 105bk, 21:26 (82gms, 7gls, 32pts, 61ht, 99bk)
D C.Franson (26): 102gms, 9gls, 50pts, 226ht, 112bk, 17:20 (82gms, 7gls, 40pts, 182ht, 90bk)

D P.Ranger (28): -----
D J.M.Liles (33): 98gms, 9gls, 38pts, 113ht, 163bk, 20:30 (82gms, 8gls, 32pts, 95ht, 136bk)

D M.Fraser (27): 49gms, 0gls, 8pts, 159ht, 105bk, 16:44 (82gms, 0gls, 13pts, 266ht, 176bk)
D T.J.Brennan (24): 40gms, 4gls, 11pts, 51ht, 38bk, 15:59 (82gms, 8gls, 23pts, 105ht, 78bk)



G J.Reimer (25): 67gms, 33-22-9, 2.78gaa, 7so, .912sv%
G J.Bernier (25): 30gms, 14-9-3, 2.14gaa, 2so, .914sv%
 
1. Hot Karl >> Phaneuf
2. Methot >> Gardiner
3. Cowen>= Franson
4. Gunnarsson> Phillips
5. Weircioch >> Ranger
6. Corvo = Liles/fraser

Our depth beyond #6>> yours
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What in the actual ****? If there was a god, it would give you cancer for this.
 
C J.Spezza (30): 85gms, 36gls, 89pts, 28ht, 25bk, 19:51 (82gms, 35gls, 86pts, 27ht, 24bk)
W M.Michalek (29): 100gms, 39gls, 74pts, 42ht, 59bk, 19:14 (82gms, 32gls, 61pts, 34ht, 48bk)
W B.Ryan (26): 128gms, 42gls, 87pts, 193ht, 53bk, 17:43 (82gms, 27gls, 56pts, 124ht, 34bk)

C K.Turris (24): 103gms, 24gls, 58pts, 53ht, 34bk, 18:08 (82gms, 19gls, 46pts, 42ht, 27bk)
W C.Conacher (24): 47gms, 11gls, 29pts, 39ht, 9bk, 13:58 (82gms, 19gls, 51pts, 68ht, 16bk)
W C.MacArthur (28): 113gms, 28gls, 63pts, 104ht, 36bk, 15:31 (82gms, 20gls, 46pts, 76ht, 26bk)

C M.Zibanejad (20): 51gms, 7gls, 21pts, 97ht, 24bk, 13:27 (82gms, 22gls, 34pts, 156ht, 39bk)
W C.Greening (27): 129gms, 25gls, 56pts, 311ht, 72bk, 15:17 (82gms, 16gls, 36pts, 198ht, 46bk)
W C.Neil (34): 120gms, 17gls, 40pts, 477ht, 30bk, 13:14 (82gms, 12gls, 27pts, 326ht, 21bk)

C Z.Smith (25): 129gms, 18gls, 41pts, 265ht, 65bk, 14:28 (82gms, 11gls, 26pts, 169ht, 41bk)
W E.Condra (27): 129gms, 12gls, 37pts, 28ht, 101bk, 13:47 (82gms, 8gls, 24pts, 18ht, 64bk)
W M.Kassian (27): 39gms, 3gls, 3pts, 70ht, 9bk, 5:55 (82gms, 6gls, 6pts, 147ht, 19bk)

C J.Pageau (21): 9gms, 2gls, 4pts, 11ht, 3bk, 11:30 (82gms, 18gls, 36pts, 100ht, 27bk)
W S.DaCosta (24): 31gms, 4gls, 7pts, 22ht, 14bk, 12:05 (82gms, 11gls, 19pts, 58ht, 37bk)
W M.Stone (21): 4gms, 0gls, 0pts, 10ht, 0bk, 10:00 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 205ht, 0bk)



D E.Karlsson (23): 98gms, 25gls, 92pts, 70ht, 79bk, 25:38 (82gms, 21gls, 77pts, 59ht, 66bk)
D M.Methot (28): 93gms, 3gls, 18pts, 236ht, 133bk, 21:09 (82gms, 3gls, 16pts, 208ht, 117bk)

D C.Phillips (35): 128gms, 10gls, 33pts, 227ht, 215bk, 19:51 (82gms, 6gls, 21pts, 145ht, 138ht)
D J.Cowen (22): 89gms, 6gls, 18pts, 243ht, 84bk, 18:51 (82gms, 6gls, 17pts, 224ht, 77bk)

D J.Corvo (36): 115gms, 10gls, 42pts, 54ht, 94bk, 18:48 (82gms, 7gls, 30pts, 39ht, 67bk)
D E.Gryba (25): 33gms, 2gls, 6pts, 89ht, 37bk, 20:17 (82gms, 5gls, 15pts, 221ht, 92bk)

D P.Wiercioch (23): 42gms, 5gls, 19pts, 28ht, 29bk, 15:42 (82gms, 10gls, 37pts, 55ht, 57bk)
D M.Borowiecki (24): 8gms, 0gls, 0pts, 30ht, 5bk, 12:52 (82gms, 0gls, 0pts, 308ht, 51bk)



G C.Anderson (32): 87gms, 45-31-8, 2.73gaa, 6so, .921sv%
G R.Lehner (22): 17gms, 8-5-4, 2.15gaa, 1so, .936sv%
 
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C T.Plekanec (31): 128gms, 31gls, 85pts, 93ht, 74bk, 20:11 (82gms, 20gls, 54pts, 60ht, 47bk)
W M.Pacioretty (25): 123gms, 48gls, 104pts, 163ht, 55bk, 17:28 (82gms, 32gls, 69pts, 109ht, 37bk)
W B.Gallagher (21): 44gms, 15gls, 28pts, 44ht, 33bk, 13:52 (82gms, 28gls, 52pts, 82ht, 62bk)

C D.Desharnais (27): 129gms, 26gls, 88pts, 59ht, 66bk, 17:41 (82gms, 17gls, 56pts, 38ht, 42bk)
W D.Briere (36): 104gms, 22gls, 65pts, 63ht, 22bk, 16:56 (82gms, 17gls, 51pts, 50ht, 17bk)
W B.Gionta (35): 79gms, 22gls, 41pts, 72ht, 36bk, 18:38 (82gms, 23gls, 43pts, 75ht, 37bk)

C A.Galchenyuk (19): 48gms, 9gls, 27pts, 23ht, 25bk, 12:19 (82gms, 15gls, 46pts, 39ht, 43bk)
W L.Eller (24): 125gms, 24gls, 58pts, 158ht, 88bk, 15:05 (82gms, 16gls, 38pts, 104ht, 58bk)
W R.Bourque (32): 103gms, 25gls, 37pts, 123ht, 36bk, 17:26 (82gms, 20gls, 30pts, 98ht, 29bk)

C R.White (25): 46gms, 1gls, 4pts, 111ht, 32bk, 11:38 (82gms, 2gls, 7pts, 198ht, 57bk)
W B.Prust (29): 120gms, 10gls, 31pts, 231ht, 77bk, 12:29 (82gms, 7gls, 21pts, 158ht, 53bk)
W T.Moen (31): 93gms, 11gls, 22pts, 157ht, 63bk, 13:13 (82gms, 10gls, 19pts, 138ht, 56bk)

C G.Dumont (23): 13gs, 1gls, 3pts, 28ht, 7bk, 9:25 (82gms, 6gls, 19pts, 177ht, 44bk)
W G.Parros (34): 84gms, 2gls, 6pts, 110ht, 29bk, 6:30 (82gms, 2gls, 6pts, 107ht, 28bk)
W M.Blunden (27): 44gms, 2gls, 4pts, 106ht, 18bk, 9:15 (82gms, 4gls, 8pts, 198ht, 34bk)



D P.K.Subban (24): 123gms, 18gls, 74pts, 156ht, 162bk, 23:57 (82gms, 12gls, 49pts, 104ht, 108bk)
D A.Markov (35): 61gms, 10gls, 33pts, 29ht, 67bk, 22:50 (82gms, 13gls, 44pts, 39ht, 90bk)

D J.Gorges (29): 130gms, 4gls, 25pts, 199ht, 366bk, 22:10 (82gms, 3gls, 16pts, 126ht, 231bk)
D A.Emelin (27): 105gms, 6gls, 19pts, 346ht, 135bk, 18:09 (82gms, 5gls, 15pts, 270ht, 105bk)

D R.Diaz (28): 82gms, 4gls, 30pts, 51ht, 146bk, 18:43 (82gms, 4gls, 30pts, 51ht, 146bk)
D F.Bouillon (38): 114gms, 5gls, 20pts, 181ht, 115bk, 17:47 (82gms, 4gls, 14pts, 130ht, 83bk)

D D.Drewiske (29): 38gms, 4gls, 9pts, 26ht, 40bk, 14:35 (82gms, 9gls, 19pts, 56ht, 86bk)
D J.Tinordi (21): 8gms, 0gls, 2pts, 14ht, 6bk, 11:43 (82gms, 0gls, 21pts, 143ht, 62bk)



G C.Price (26): 104gms, 47-41-15, 2.49gaa, 7so, .912sv%
G P.Budaj (31): 30gms, 13-8-6, 2.45gaa, 1so, .912sv%
 
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