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I dunno about "tremendously" financially successful. They're 16th in revenues and lowest revenues of the Canadian teams obviously.
 
I dunno about "tremendously" financially successful. They're 16th in revenues and lowest revenues of the Canadian teams obviously.

Despite being 30th in population. That's remarkable any way you look at it.

Canadian hockey fans >>>

We generate so much revenue per person. :lol
 
According to Forbes they made $13 mill in 2011-12. Its better than Atlanta was doing at least. And they are doing it in a 15k seat arena without enough luxury suites.

They'll never be a top market, but they can be an average/slightly below average one which is pretty good for the smallest market in the NHL.
 
According to Forbes they made $13 mill in 2011-12. Its better than Atlanta was doing at least. And they are doing it in a 15k seat arena without enough luxury suites.

They'll never be a top market, but they can be an average/slightly below average one which is pretty good for the smallest market in the NHL.

Prescient post.

Besides, I think the league can live with a market that is reasonably profitable but is much more stable and is beloved by the local populace than a larger market with greater hypothetical "potential" but whose likelihood of ever reaching it is negligible.
 
Quebec City's metropolitan area is 696,000 and Winnipeg's is 730,000. I don't see why a team could not succeed in Quebec if it could succeed in Winnipeg, especially given Quebec's substantially larger provincial population than Manitoba's, and ability to draw Francophone fans from surrounding areas in Quebec and New Brunswick.

Quebec City's estimated population is 770K: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/demo05a-eng.htm

And they appear to have a financial sugar daddy... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebecor_Inc.
 
We'll see how Winnipeg does years from now. The honeymoon period will end soon. And players will avoid that place like the plague.
 
It's all about the TV market. Get enough eyeballs watching your team, you can put a team pretty much anywhere.
 
I never understood why people worry so much about attendance in a handful of bad markets.

The Jays play to half empty stadiums all year long.

The Rays play to an empty stadium all year long.

MLB is not sweating it.
 
NHL is more gate-driven, no?

Yeah, tv revenue for hockey in the US is especially sad. As for Winnipeg and QC, the CDN/US dollar at .65 did them in. Hard to stay afloat if your salary outputs are +50% your revenue inputs.
 
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Atlantic division looks really tough while Metro looks very weak.

6 of the 8 best teams in the East might just come from the Atlantic. Only 5 can make it though, so there will be one very disappointed team.
 
Everything I hated about the old set up, is worse in the new set up. How hard is it to just take the best 8 teams in the conference and put them in the playoffs?
 
Vs the West:

Atlantic Division: 22-23-3 (80 pt pace)
Metro Division: 10-22-6 (56 pt pace)



The metro division is making the Eastern Conference as a whole look bad. The Atlantic is basically .500 against the West, with 5 of the 8 teams at or above .500 against the West. Only Atlantic teams below 500 against the West are Ottawa (1-6-1), Florida (2-3-1) and Buffalo (0-5-0). Only Pittsburgh and NYI are at or above .500 against the West in the Metro.
 
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