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The Official 2026 Off-Season Thread: Revenge of the Nerds

LeafOfFaith said:
No, when you trade from excess, you don't trade the best of your excess. You trade the worst of it.

You have Knies, McKenna, Cowan, Robertson, Maccelli all on the left side. You look to deal Maccelli first for whatever the best asset you can get might be, then maybe move on to Robertson unless he or Cowan will play the right side, in which case, no need to move him. You use whatever the Maccelli return is to package with something else to get something better than both, and so on.
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Just complete gibberish.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
No, when you trade from excess, you don't trade the best of your excess. You trade the worst of it.
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You aren't getting Adam Fox or Werenski for the worst of your excess though. There are some players who you just pay the cost for, those two are that type of player.

You either want elite players or you don't. Knies, despite your say so otherwise, is not an elite player. Over the last 2 years combined he's tied for 63rd in the league in goals with Lucas Raymond and JJ Peterka, and 67th in points with Slafkovsky. Right behind Morgan Geekie, Tom Wilson, Gabe Vilardi, etc. He's a lovely, lovely player. Solid 1st line winger but he's a yuuge step down from elite. Fox and Werenski are top ~5 defenders in their prime. No one should ever think of trading them, and taking advantage of another GM's absence of sense is exactly what you keep talking about. It's not about what you give up, it's about what you get.
 
There's no gibberish about it.

I simply don't believe in trading away your young, healthy, improving, star players - unless you have too many of them for the position, which is next to impossible (such as three 1Cs on your team). I believe that whatever you trade these guys for is more or less a sideways move. You lose an asset that you will feel the loss of, and gain an asset that improves another area. When you're also trading the cheaper, younger, healthier one for the more expensive, older, more injury prone one in this case, that just makes the proposition worse.

The way to improve a team is incrementally, through trades of non-essential pieces for better pieces until you max out that asset in the trade tree. Unless clear rip off deals come around like Sundin for Clark, in which case you jump at those. Basically when Tre offers you Tkachuk for Huberdeau and Weegar, you jump. Those don't come around often though.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
If you arent interested in trading almost any winger for Werenski, you're missing a chrome or two.

I'd move Knies for either Werenski or Fox, not sure if there are any other realistic ones.

Josi is a harder one to do cause of age.
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Yeah, only other D I'd send Knies out for are Seider, Hutson, Bouchard, Makar, Dahlin, Sanderson, Heiskanen, QHughes, McAvoy.

Basically a list of defenders no one in their right mind would trade without a superstar coming back the other way.
 
MindzEye said:
You aren't getting Adam Fox or Werenski for the worst of your excess though. There are some players who you just pay the cost for, those two are that type of player.

You either want elite players or you don't. Knies, despite your say so otherwise, is not an elite player. Over the last 2 years combined he's tied for 63rd in the league in goals with Lucas Raymond and JJ Peterka, and 67th in points with Slafkovsky. Right behind Morgan Geekie, Tom Wilson, Gabe Vilardi, etc. He's a lovely, lovely player. Solid 1st line winger but he's a yuuge step down from elite. Fox and Werenski are top ~5 defenders in their prime. No one should ever think of trading them, and taking advantage of another GM's absence of sense is exactly what you keep talking about. It's not about what you give up, it's about what you get.
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Knies may have put up points last year, but he was playing hurt for most of the season and in a nightmare campaign. I don't care about any of our guys' numbers last year. But neither here nor there.

The thing is, I don't want Fox or Werenski if it costs us one of our top guys. I want elite players, but through the draft, UFAs, or rip off deals. I want to keep my best and add to it. I don't want to trade my best, and especially not when they're just starting out and already an impact player.
 
MindzEye said:
Yeah, only other D I'd send Knies out for are Seider, Hutson, Bouchard, Makar, Dahlin, Sanderson, Heiskanen, QHughes, McAvoy.

Basically a list of defenders no one in their right mind would trade without a superstar coming back the other way.
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Like what is Owen Power? That feels closer to even where I just pass
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Knies may have put up points last year, but he was playing hurt for most of the season and in a nightmare campaign. I don't care about any of our guys' numbers last year. But neither here nor there.

The thing is, I don't want Fox or Werenski if it costs us one of our top guys. I want elite players, but through the draft, UFAs, or rip off deals. I want to keep my best and add to it. I don't want to trade my best, and especially not when they're just starting out and already an impact player.
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You are simply not a serious person
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
Like what is Owen Power? That feels closer to even where I just pass
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I've never been an Owen Power fan fwiw. Like, he's fine. A solid enough #3-4 guy, but we see him playing on the same blueline as an elite or at least fringe elite #1 and the gap between them is fucking huge. Power is nowhere near as good as Dahlin was at 20-21-22.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
You are simply not a serious person
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There's no need for the insults whenever you disagree with something. Would it surprise you to know that I think most of what you say is nonsense and that you wouldn't survive in the real world for a second in a situation with real stakes where you had to negotiate for a difficult outcome or build something out of nothing?

Of course not. But I don't need to go so far as to verbalize it in a post on a message board, now do I?
 
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