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We like our team

Yep, thats what I said when they acquired Gleason. Fine, if you must, for the bottom pairing. But realistically, he's playing his off-side with Hainsey.

Murphy making the step up, at least at some point in the season, is perhaps our only hope. Hainsey might be able to carry him, especially in a Peters system that's going to force the forwards to come back and participate. His right shot and puck-moving offensive game is certainly the skill set we need in that slot.

Over-slotting, thy name is Canes.
 
Losing Bellmore on the right side has negative ripple effects right on down the roster. He (Right D) needs to be replaced.

Assuming our 1st pairing is: Sekera-Faulk

That leaves:

LD - Hainsey, Liles, Gleason and Harrison (only Liles might be able to play the off side)
RD - Murphy

I sure hope RF see's this gapping hole on the right side and has something in the works. Sean Hill 3.0 (JK)
 
I don't see that RF has done the same things at all where he has had options. His moves have nearly all been making this team bigger and nastier to play against. He hasn't tethered himself to Semin, Staal, Staal and Ward at all. That was already done before he took over. He didn't claim to have a big free agent day. As for the public face to put on it, I don't think you're going to accomplish anything by saying what we might all see as the truth. The problem with this team is that we paid way too much money for Staal, Staal, and Semin, and we wish we could take back the Staal-Sutter trade, and Cam is a boat anchor, so we're pretty much sunk.

Gleason is a recycle, but he's big and plays a gritty game, and in the right role, he's a plus.

I don't see much optimism from anyone. What I do see is an understanding that if we're locked into paying big money for Staal/Staal/Semin&Ward, we're not going to accomplish much of anything unless those guys get it done. If they don't, at our budget, it doesn't really matter who else laces em up. The bulk of our money is being spent there, and there is very little that RF can do about that for this season. He has 2 directions to go. First is a firesale, letting our assets go below what is probably even a fair value, and getting rid of at least some of those 4, but that will require either eating big chunks of their contracts, or packaging them with other assets. So, although that route gets you out from under those contracts, it probably damages your prospects for the next few years while only freeing up enough money to replace one or two of those guys with legit top 2 line players. That leaves option 2. You work on what you can, that doesn't tie you into anything long term, that addresses some of the issues you see with the team, that improves the pipeline for the future, and you bring in a new coach, and you somewhat publicly set expectations for your Captain that last year isn't acceptable, and it's true, you put your hopes for a successful campaign on the combination of the new coach and expectations, and the fact that those guys woefully underperformed last season, and it they do play up to their ability, this team is a playoff team.

I'm not seeing anyone optimistic at all, just looking at the limitations of what can be done, and giving RF the benefit of the doubt given the fact that he has no money to spend and his top talent was locked in when he took over. JR would have brought in 2 marginal aging speedy small forwards and one puck moving D, overpaid for them, and traded future assets for them, and signed them to 3 or 4 year deals with NMCs. And drafted Kapanin.
The Jordan Staal contract and trade for him are effin ridiculous and really hurt this club.

Choosing Boychuk over Karlsson was straight dumb as hell. JR with his boneheaded reasoning for not drafting defensemen just cuz he got butt hurt over JJ not going pro on his demand and the Igor thing. Hey JR, drafting Dmen wasn't the problem!

JJ for Gleason was straight dumb as hell.

Signing Semin to such a contract was straight dumb as hell.

JR is going to wreck the Pens. Good for us.

Comparing RF to JR isn't fair. RF hasn't done anything dumb as hell.
 
Losing Bellmore on the right side has negative ripple effects right on down the roster. He (Right D) needs to be replaced.


I sure hope RF see's this gapping hole on the right side and has something in the works. Sean Hill 3.0 (JK)

I don't think they're done with Bellemore yet. We were talking with him earlier this week.
 
Even Bellemore is an overslot in a second-pairing role. Hainsey, once again, being asked to carry someone, when ideally he would be the complementary pairing for a legit second-pairing guy.

But, you know...at least we have over-slotting depth. :sarcasm
 
Even Bellemore is an overslot in a second-pairing role. Hainsey, once again, being asked to carry someone, when ideally he would be the complementary pairing for a legit second-pairing guy.

But, you know...at least we have over-slotting depth. :sarcasm

Exactly. On any other team Hainsey-Bellmore would be your 3rd pairing.
 
Canes defensemen depth (sorted as most teams might do so):

1st pairing: none (Faulk in training, but would be best used as a #2 complementary pairing to a true #1 D-man)

2nd pairing: Faulk, Sekera, Hainsey

3rd pairing: Murphy?, Gleason?

AHL or elsewhere: everyone else
 
Well then by process of elimination we have:

Sekera-Faulk
Hainsey-Liles (out of position)
Gleason-Murphy

Harrison in the 7th slot.

What's not to like?

And this lineup has PK just grinin from ear to ear ... as he tells everyone how he likes his team.
 
Am I the only one who thinks that Jay Harrison is going to have a much better year this year than he did last year?
 
Canes defensemen depth (sorted as most teams might do so):

1st pairing: none (Faulk in training, but would be best used as a #2 complementary pairing to a true #1 D-man)

2nd pairing: Faulk, Sekera, Hainsey

3rd pairing: Murphy?, Gleason?

AHL or elsewhere: everyone else

Usually I agree with you, but not on this.

If you don't have the super star, and lots of teams don't, then there is nothing at all wrong with any 2 of Faulk Sekera and Hainsey as your top pair. They're not going to be the best top pair in the NHL, but they're going to be serviceable in that role.

Our D wasn't a huge problem for most of the year last season, and it wasn't the reason we didn't make the playoffs, and our problems on D weren't our first pair not getting it done, it was when the some of the other guys became fairly useless, or when Faulk or Sekera wasn't in. We don't have the depth or the type of guys to cover for that. Gleason actually helps there because he's not some little fast offensive defenseman.

Personally, I like Gleason in there better than what we had on the third pair last season. If the pressure is off him being the stud top pair guy, there's no reason he can't be a really solid third pairing guy with the potential to move up into the second pair if there's an injury. We'd all like to bring in that top level guy and that would allow our defense to all slot down, and give us lots better options, but those guys cost boatloads, and we all know we don't have the dough to get one this year. This year for the first time I can remember there are at least prospects coming down the pipeline that could be that kind of guy. The problem we have is Liles. He's eating up the bad contract dollars from Gleason's contract here.

Bottom line is for the GM of a budget minded team, you can't recover from contracts like Gleason's and Wards, especially when your other high dollar guys are not getting it done.
 
Hmm, what to say about the D.
First, they, the players, really aren't that bad.
I know, I saw it last year and the year before as did everyone else.
We saw them running around trying to do everything themselves, chasing someone down, getting out of position, the stuff we chew mytes and pewees out for. The reason? Several. One was out and out piss poor coaching. What were they being told and shown? I think also a lot was lack of trust between partners. Again, coaching. The third reason was the friggin wings and centers. They were chasing and out of position all the time also. The whole thing was one major screwup.
Wings didn't get back in time, a delayed wing or d wing slowly coming into the slot uncovered, several people chasing after the puck carrier getting in each other's way, leaving an open man in front of the net, slow getting to the pucks in the corners, not knowing what your partner or the wings were gonna do so a second was spent watching to see who,was gonna do what, all down to coaching and lack of leadership.
Correct that crap and the d will be fine.
 
Maybe I'm not being fair here, but I think even THAT pairing is a stretch to be considered a bonafied 3rd pairing. Temporarily, due to injuries, sure.

Umm ... Hainsey's only a third pairing guy on a handful of teams. He's a legit top 4 guy in this league. Bellie? Meh. Not so much.

And honestly, our D wasn't the problem last season so bringing most of that group back doesn't really bother me much. I'd like to see us as a right sider to play with Hainsey if possible, but I know those guys don't grow on trees. Besides, it's a long time between now and camps breaking.
 
Sunday evening I got back to Raleigh about 7:30 and swung by Crabtree before going home and as I passed Barnes & Noble, there were about a dozen young men walking in the street. As I got to the deck it hit me: those are the Canes hopefuls in the prospects development camp. They all had some real heft to them. I'd bet they went to Kanki for dinner. When I got back in two minutes they were prob'ly in B&N. I almost stopped in but I wuz beat and on a mission.

Unfortunately, I'm gonna miss most of the sessions but will be back in Raleigh Thursday nite and will catch the Friday practice and Saturday's doings.
 
A few years back I was having dinner at the bar in Brio (one of my defaults when my wife is on the road) and a bunch of them came in. Bob McKenzie's kid sat next to me and we had a nice chat.
 
FWIW, a lot of the younger guys who ends up actually making the club end up living in the North Hills complex, plus a lot of visiting teams stay at the Renaissance Hotel there. So that's a really good place to bump into players during the season.
 
Yeah, at North hills, I've met Chara, Ovetchkin and several other Caps and about half of the Islanders and a few others plus several coaches.
 
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