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OT: The News Thread

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Yeah, for the record I have no problem holding the G20 summit in Toronto, or people exercising their right to assemble.

But **** these *******s who show up just to get violent.
 
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2 police cars on fire

store windows smashed

eaton centre and sheridan centre on lockdown.


disgraceful.
 
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King and Bay
 
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BeLeafer said:
It's an outrageous and summary erosion of civil liberties. It is police state shit.

Then again, so is pouring over a billion dollars into 'security' for this - we're really into a surreal realm here.

As for discussing it around here, one quickly grows tired of the far right flinging labels dispense with thinking/real discussion, although I'm sure that since McGuinty did it, there may be more 'openness' among that group to considering its perniciousness.
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Yep. People like to mock when you refer to this move as such, but that's the only way to describe it. I'm absolutely stunned that something like this could get passed behind closed doors by a small group of provincial cabinet members with no public debate, no legal test, no public announcement, nothing. The police just go to McGuinty, say "we want to be able to arrest people who don't present their papers and submit to be searched, with probable cause thrown out the window, and we want this whole thing kept quiet". And then BAM, it's done.

If what's been done here by the Toronto police and McGuinty is actually legal, then this is an absolutely massive flaw in our political and legal system that must be fixed IMMEDIATELY. Because then there's nothing in place to check the government and police's power and prevent them from inacting these kind of draconian secret rules wherever then want and whenever they what, for whatever reason they want.
 
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LeafGm said:
Yep. People like to mock when you refer to this move as such, but that's the only way to describe it. I'm absolutely stunned that something like this could get passed behind closed doors by a small group of provincial cabinet members with no public debate, no legal test, no public announcement, nothing. The police just go to McGuinty, say "we want to be able to arrest people who don't present their papers and submit to be searched, with probable cause thrown out the window, and we want this whole thing kept quiet". And then BAM, it's done.

If what's been done here by the Toronto police and McGuinty is actually legal, then this is an absolutely massive flaw in our political and legal system that must be fixed IMMEDIATELY. Because then there's nothing in place to check the government and police's power and prevent them from inacting these kind of draconian secret rules wherever then want and whenever they what, for whatever reason they want.
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nah, there's always a need for this ability in certain situations, and I'd say this is one of them.

If they abused this power, the people wouldn't stand for it.
 
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Gathering 20 world leaders together in one spot, means it is absolutely essential to have a ridiculously high level of security.
 
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LeafGm said:
Yep. People like to mock when you refer to this move as such, but that's the only way to describe it. I'm absolutely stunned that something like this could get passed behind closed doors by a small group of provincial cabinet members with no public debate, no legal test, no public announcement, nothing. The police just go to McGuinty, say "we want to be able to arrest people who don't present their papers and submit to be searched, with probable cause thrown out the window, and we want this whole thing kept quiet". And then BAM, it's done.

If what's been done here by the Toronto police and McGuinty is actually legal, then this is an absolutely massive flaw in our political and legal system that must be fixed IMMEDIATELY. Because then there's nothing in place to check the government and police's power and prevent them from inacting these kind of draconian secret rules wherever then want and whenever they what, for whatever reason they want.
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3 man search?
 
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zeke said:
nah, there's always a need for this ability in certain situations, and I'd say this is one of them.

If they abused this power, the people wouldn't stand for it.
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If they felt that these measures were crucial, and just, then they could have introduced them in the house of commons, or at least announced them publicly. Instead they passed them secretly, and then didn't even inform the citizens of the new laws that they'd be expected to obey, that carry as punishment arrest, imprisonment and large fines.

There is no defending what they've done here.
 
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Let's wait for some details.

In Quebec City there was some outrage over violence apparently started by protesters. It came out later that they were agent provocateurs planted by the RCMP.

Whatever the case, it's a car.
 
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