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Stop this.

Between this type of post and Jays suggesting Methot is "awful" we won't get anywhere.

Hot Karl is indisputably the best defenceman on either team. By far. I think methot is as valuable as phaneuf. He's much steadier and more reliable. And in terms of upside, I could see taking Cowen over phaneuf too. I'd agree that's only on potential though.
 
why does it matter if Cowen fights?

Does anyone want their "impact players" dropping the mitts?

Granted, if he is a bottom pairing goon, good on him.
 
Hot Karl is indisputably the best defenceman on either team. By far. I think methot is as valuable as phaneuf. He's much steadier and more reliable. And in terms of upside, I could see taking Cowen over phaneuf too. I'd agree that's only on potential though.

This is worse then everything I have ever said combined together
 
Hot Karl is indisputably the best defenceman on either team. By far. I think methot is as valuable as phaneuf. He's much steadier and more reliable. And in terms of upside, I could see taking Cowen over phaneuf too. I'd agree that's only on potential though.

I actually reported this post.
 
10 years of fighting over draft picks, 1998-2007:





C J.Spezza (30): 611gms, 228gls, 621pts, 18:41 (82gms, 31gls, 83pts)
C K.Wellwood (30): 489gms, 92gls, 235pts, 13:53 (82gms, 15gls, 39pts)

W M.Havlat (32): 700gms, 224gls, 557pts, 17:05 (82gms, 26gls, 65pts)
W B.Boyes (31): 606gms, 168gls, 407pts, 16:49 (82gms, 23gls, 55pts)

W A.Vermette (31): 670gms, 157gls, 350pts, 16:50 (82gms, 19gls, 43pts)
W A.Steen (29): 537gms, 123gls, 303pts, 17:31 (82gms, 19gls, 46pts)


C M.Fisher (33): 812gms, 206gls, 432pts, 17:21 (82gms, 21gls, 44pts)
C N.Antropov (33): 788gms, 193gls, 465pts, 15:49 (82gms, 20gls, 48pts)

W B.Laich (30): 566gms, 117gls, 282pts, 15:58 (82gms, 17gls, 41pts)
W N.Kulemin (27): 351gms, 75gls, 175pts, 15:53 (82gms, 18gls, 41pts)

W C.Greening (27): 153gms, 31gls, 69pts, 15:15 (82gms, 17gls, 37pts)
W A.Poni (33): 678gms, 139gls, 323pts, 14:22 (82gms, 17gls, 39pts)


C C.Kelly (33): 603gms, 100gls, 229pts, 14:56 (82gms, 14gls, 31pts)
C M.Stajan (30): 652gms, 109gls, 311pts, 15:23 (82gms, 14gls, 39pts)

W N.Foligno (26): 396gms, 67gls, 167pts, 14:11 (82gms, 14gls, 35pts)
W J.Tlusty (25): 276gms, 57gls, 112pts, 13:20 (82gms, 17gls, 33pts)

W P.Eaves (29): 414gms, 72gls, 141pts, 12:14 (82gms, 14gls, 28pts)
W V.Stalberg (27): 243gms, 52gls, 104pts, 13:06 (82gms, 18gls, 35pts)


C P.Regin (28): 178gms, 19gls, 55pts, 12:46 (82gms, 9gls, 25pts)
C J.Mitchell (29): 269gms, 35gls, 91pts, 13:48 (82gms, 11gls, 28pts)

W E.Condra (27): 155gms, 18gls, 48pts, 14:09 (82gms, 10gls, 25pts)
W M.Frattin (26): 82gms, 15gls, 28pts, 13:13 (82gms, 15gls, 28pts)

W C.Neil (34): 779gms, 94gls, 212pts, 11:21 (82gms, 10gls, 22pts)
W L.Komarov (27): 42gms, 4gls, 9pts, 13:56 (82gms, 8gls, 18pts)


C J.O'Brien (25): 63gms, 8gls, 12pts, 11:24 (82gms, 10gls, 16pts)
C ----------

W B.Bochenski (31): 156gms, 28gls, 68pts, 12:05 (82gms, 15gls, 36pts)
W ----------

W K.Daugavins (25): 91gms, 6gls, 15pts, 11:13 (82gms, 5gls, 14pts)
W R.Earl (28): 47gms, 6gls, 7pts, 8:58 (82gms, 11gls, 12pts)




D A.Meszaros (28): 533gms, 49gls, 202pts, 20:47 (82gms, 8gls, 31pts)
D I.White (29): 503gms, 45gls, 179pts, 20:52 (82gms, 7gls, 29pts)

D G.Zanon (33): 493gms, 12gls, 62pts, 19:51 (82gms, 2gls, 10pts)
D C.Gunnarsson (27): 224gms, 12gls, 69pts, 20;32 (82gms, 4gls, 25pts)


D T.Gleason (31): 599gms, 15gls, 127pts, 19:25 (82gms, 2gls, 17pts)
D C.Colaiacovo (31): 376gms, 30gls, 140pts, 17:54 (82gms, 7gls, 31pts)

D A.Volchenkov (31): 594gms, 19gls, 99pts, 18:45 (82gms, 3gls, 14pts)
D J.Harrison (31): 249gms, 16gls, 51pts, 17:37 (82gms, 5gls, 17pts)


D B.Lee (26): 209gms, 5gls, 36pts, 16:40 (82gms, 2gls, 14pts)
D A.Stralman (27): 313gms, 17gls, 99pts, 17:36 (82gms, 5gls, 26pts)

D E.Gryba (25): 33gms, 2gls, 6pts, 20:17 (82gms, 5gls, 15pts)
D K.Holzer (25): 24gms, 2gls, 3pts, 18:03 (82gms, 7gls, 10pts)


D C.Schubert (31): 315gms, 25gls, 72pts, 12:52 (82gms, 7gls, 19pts)
D K.Pilar (36): 90gms, 6gls, 30pts, 17:38 (82gms, 6gls, 27pts)

D -------
D B.Bell (30): 102gms, 7gls, 28pts, 15:47 (82gms, 6gls, 23pts)




G B.Elliott (28): 204gms, 98-71-21, 2.56gaa, 21so, .909wv%
G T.Rask (26): 138gms, 66-45-16, 2.15gaa, 16so, .927sv%

G R.Emery (31): 228gms, 126-63-19, 2.63gaa, 14so, .908sv%
G J.Reimer (25): 104gms, 53-32-14, 2.71gaa, 10so, .915sv%

G M.Prusek (37): 57gms, 31-12-4, 2.36gaa, 3so, .909sv%
G M.Tellqvist (34): 113gms, 45-41-10, 3.01gaa, 6so, .898sv%



OTT gets the star #1 C (and kept him), Leafs get the star #1 G (and traded him), and the rest is a whole lotta meh.




we'll see how the 5 years since then turn out.

so far OTT has the early edge there thanks to karlsson, at least.
 
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