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OT: Coronavirus Resources - and other things to not worry about

Preston said:
Yeah covid is about 3+ times more contagious than the seasonal flu so it makes sense that the steps we're all taking to limit the spread of covid will probably help limit the spread of other shit way more effectively. I think distancing and to your point, working from home, has been the biggest benefactor but it all helps I'd imagine. The flu pretty much disappeared from the southern hemisphere this year. I still got my flu shot... JUST in case of course.
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You're also going to see small things like anyone who does get even a mild flu assumes they actually have this death plague until they get their covid test, so for the mostpart, they're not going to be going to the office or even to Tims. Basically, the health requirements that we should have had all along that when you're sick you absolutely shouldn't try to infect others, will certainly have a residual effect. And with more people getting a flu shot this year than normal (I would assume), flu numbers this year I expect will be way down.
 
Schools sending kids home who are a little sick will help... the entire mentality around "im not feeling well but ill gut it out at work" should change as well.

Being a little sick and staying away from other humans will be a major help moving forward
 
trujaysfan said:
Schools sending kids home who are a little sick will help... the entire mentality around "im not feeling well but ill gut it out at work" should change as well.
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That's the big reason why the Japanese have historically worn masks -- they are expected to go to work sick but they don't want to spread it around.
 
So, my stepdad is still very sick. Can barely move and just lays in bed all day. This is 11 days in for him having severe flu symptoms. Luckily, his breathing is still fine, so nobody seems to be too concerned yet. Really hoping he starts feeling better soon.

The "good" news is that it sounds like my mom already had Covid and recovered a couple weeks ago. She was telling me that she had been very tired and not feeling well. She said she thought it was a kidney infection for some reason. I guess she didn't want to freak me out and her symptoms were a fair bit worse. It now seems likely that it was Covid. I'm hoping she gets the antibody test and it comes back positive.

And more bad news. My brother's wife has tested positive. They live a few minutes from my parents, a little Southeast of Winnipeg. She's the one that drove my stepdad to the hospital. She's got symptoms but not too serious, yet. So far my brother is testing negative.
 
and they've had the biggest GDP drop among scandinavian nations.

"the economy" isn't some magical entity that exists somewhere in the clouds above us...it is us. If we're sick, tired, scared, the real economy is sick tired and scared.
 
Moderna says it's vaccine is 94.5% effective. Unsurprising but a bit of peace of mind. Market likes it. Presto likes it. We can all breathe. There's an exit plan from all of this.

Storage requirement for this one is colder than the norm but nowhere near as extreme as Pfizer's. Much more doable. We get good news on the Oxford and j&j front (and hopefully several others) and we're good to go.
 
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But Moderna’s independent monitors reported some additional, promising tidbits: All 11 severe COVID-19 cases were among placebo recipients, and there were no significant safety concerns.

The main side effects were fatigue, muscle aches and injection-site pain after the vaccine’s second dose, at rates that Hoge characterized as more common than with flu shots but on par with others such as shingles vaccine.
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100% effectiveness at limiting severe symptoms is an underrated aspect here.

Moderna announced Monday that once thawed, its doses can last longer in a refrigerator than initially thought, up to 30 days.
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It's kind of phenomenal really. We need them all to work to get out of this next year. Odds are pretty good that they will.

Next up is Oxford which is a big one as it's the cheapest. A lot of the poorer nations are on deck to receive that one (Canada has it secured as well, but they have a lot secured) so we need that one to work. J&J is after Oxford and that's a 1 doser in a company with enormous mass production capabilities that would be game changing as well. Still need to figure out how long immunity lasts still of course and how often we need to get these babies but overall lots of reason for optimism.

I said it earlier.. the outbreak in the US and other regions where these are being trialed is allowing for these trials to move a lot quicker than they otherwise would be as the number of cases that (primarily) the placebo group are racking up. Silver lining.
 
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