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The Official Post-Bitch 2025-26 Regular Season Thread

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thehabhater said:
NHL standings are calculated using a simple points system: 2 points for a win, 1 point for an overtime/shootout loss, and 0 points for a regulation loss, with total points determining rank; tiebreakers like regulation wins, goal differential, and goals for/against break ties between teams with equal points. This system allows teams with more OT losses to finish higher than teams with more wins but fewer points.
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Ok boomer.

You typed out a whole lotta words when you could’ve just typed:

“I don’t understand what points percentage is, or how the NHL determines the exact standings on a day to day basis. Please explain this to my old ass, o wise young ones, even though this subject has come up around here and been explained in detail an innumerable number of times before.”


Hmm…well I guess that ended up being a whole lotta words too. Oh well!
 
LeafGm said:
Ok boomer.

You typed out a whole lotta words when you could’ve just typed:

“I don’t understand what points percentage is, or how the NHL determines the exact standings on a day to day basis. Please explain this to my old ass, o wise young ones, even though this subject has come up around here and been explained in detail an innumerable number of times before.”


Hmm…well I guess that ended up being a whole lotta words too. Oh well!
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Zeke's argument is delusional.

The percentage argument is only relevant once the season is over. Once all teams have played 82 games, the percentage becomes a byproduct.

Points are, and have always been, the sole factor in determining the standings at any time during the season, regardless of the number of games played by each team

Wishing something otherwise to be true does not make it true.

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thehabhater said:
The Leafs would have had to win either one of those unplayed games to win a playoff spot. Until they do, they have not.
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Skill-Testing Question:

In 19-20, the NHL season was cut short, with teams ending up with differing amounts of games played.

This season, the playoffs format was modified to include a qualifying round, but this didn't effect the question of whether points or points% would be used to seed the teams, or the tiebreakers that would be used.

So here were the rules that season:

1. Top-2 Seeds from each division got a bye directly to the first round.
2. The next 4 teams from each division were seeded 1-8, and played qualifying rounds of 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, and 4v5.
3. After the qualifying round, the 4 winning teams were re-seeded 4-8 based on regular season standings, and slotted appropriately against the #1-4 teams that had a Bye to the first round.


Skill-Testing Question: Given the Eastern Conference Standings (posted below), please tell the class (WITHOUT LOOKING) the order in which the Eastern teams were seeded for the playoffs that year?

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you have as long as you need.
 
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zeke said:
Skill-Testing Question:

In 19-20, the NHL season was cut short, with teams ending up with differing amounts of games played.

This season, the playoffs format was modified to include a qualifying round, but this didn't effect the question of whether points or points% would be used to seed the teams, or the tiebreakers that would be used.

So here were the rules that season:

1. Top-2 Seeds from each division got a bye directly to the first round.
2. The next 4 teams from each division were seeded 1-8, and played qualifying rounds of 1v8, 2v7, 3v6, and 4v5.
3. After the qualifying round, the 4 winning teams were re-seeded 4-8 based on regular season standings, and slotted appropriately against the #1-4 teams that had a Bye to the first round.


Skill-Testing Question: Given the Eastern Conference Standings (posted below), please tell the class (WITHOUT LOOKING) the order in which the Eastern teams were seeded for the playoffs that year?

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zeke said:
you have as long as you need.
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You make an excellent point. In the COVID-shortened season, playoff seeds were indeed awarded by percentage.

However, this seeding system had never happened before, and it hasn’t happened since. Nor will it this year. Therefore, this one-time exception is absolutely irrelevant to this season. However, you are absolutely correct in pointing out that it was used only this one time. ( good job)

Based upon the current rules regarding standings, the 2025-2026 Toronto Maple Leafs are not currently in a playoff position. But, they can be if they win tonight.
 
thehabhater said:
You make an excellent point. In the COVID-shortened season, playoff seeds were indeed awarded by percentage.

However, this seeding system had never happened before, and it hasn’t happened since. Nor will it this year. Therefore, this one-time exception is absolutely irrelevant to this season. However, you are absolutely correct in pointing out that it was used only this one time. ( good job)
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I think you get that when all teams have played the same amount of games, points and pts% seed teams exactly the same way, so actually every season in history has been seeded by pts%. While points have been used in almost all the seasons, except for the one single season that they disagreed with pts% on the seeding. For some reason.

So why do you think in the one and only instance that points and pts% seeded the teams differently, the NHL chose pts% instead of points? Was it just for shits and giggles? Is it just a weird coincidence that the only example we have where points and pts% seeded the teams differently, the NHL decided to suddenly make a fundamental change and decide pts% was more important? (only to immediately 'switch back' to points being more important the next season?) Was it Covid that poisoned their brains into thinking pts% was more important? or maybe the vaccine?

Do you think it has anything to do with the reason why the daily waiver wire order is seeded on pts%, not points, every single day of the season?
 
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zeke said:
I think you get that when all teams have played the same amount of games, points and pts% seed teams exactly the same way, so actually every season in history has been seeded by pts%. While points have been used in almost all the seasons, except for the one single season that they disagreed with pts% on the seeding. For some reason.

So why do you think in the one and only instance that points and pts% seeded the teams differently, the NHL chose pts% instead of points? Was it just for shits and giggles? Is it just a weird coincidence that the only example we have where points and pts% seeded the teams differently, the NHL decided to make a fundamental change and decide pts% was more important? (only to immediately 'switch back' to points being more important the next season?) Was it Covid that poisoned their brains into thinking pts% was more important? or maybe the vaccine?

Do you think it has anything to do with the reason why the daily waiver wire order is seeded on pts%, not points, every single day of the season?
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Using your argument, "the one and only time". Ergo, that one and only time is not now.

Therefore, the Leafs, barring a victory tonight that we all want, are not in the playoffs.
 
thehabhater said:
Using your argument, "the one and only time". Ergo, that one and only time is not now.

Therefore, the Leafs, barring a victory tonight that we all want, are not in the playoffs.
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did they go insane that one time?

what is the explanation for that insanity?

why would they suddenly decide that pts% was more important than points? and then change their minds again the next season?

Covid brain? vaccine damage?
 
zeke said:
did they go insane that one time?

what is the explanation for that insanity?

why would they suddenly decide that pts% was more important than points? and then change their minds again the next season?

Covid brain? vaccine damage?
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That one time, sir, is not this season. Correct? It was a decision that was exclusively for the 2019-20 season.
Exclusively.

If the season ended today, and the NHL applied the 2019-20 rules, yes the Leafs would be in the playoffs.
 
thehabhater said:
That one time, sir, is not this season. Correct? It was a decision that was exclusively for the 2019-20 season.
Exclusively.
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ok so just out of nowhere decided to change to pts% that year instead of points.

for no reason.

coincidentally in the one season where points and pts% seeded the teams differently.


and also for no reason, they use pts% every single day of the season to set the waiver wire order.

why? who knows.


i wonder if they'd suddenly change their minds again if the season was cut short today.

I guess we'll never know.
 
If the season ended right now for any reason at all, they would use pt% ....so then why bother pretending that points actually matter for seeding?
 
zeke said:
ok so just out of nowhere decided to change to pts% that year instead of points.

for no reason.

coincidentally in the one season where points and pts% seeded the teams differently.


and also for no reason, they use pts% every single day of the season to set the waiver wire order.

why? who knows.


i wonder if they'd suddenly change their minds again if the season was cut short today.

I guess we'll never know.
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Until they do, they haven't.
 
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