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The Official 2026 Off-Season Thread: Revenge of the Nerds

MindzEye said:
That is exactly what Knies for Fox/Werenski would be though.
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But it's not. It's ripping a hole in the team by removing Knies. I'd love to get those guys, but it's such a simple, easy decision and better outcome to keep Knies and get Raddysh for free. Do I care that Raddysh isn't as good as those guys? Not in the least.

Because Knies + Raddysh > Werenski or Fox.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
But it's not. It's ripping a hole in the team by removing Knies. I'd love to get those guys, but it's such a simple, easy decision and better outcome to keep Knies and get Raddysh for free. Do I care that Raddysh isn't as good as those guys? Not in the least.

Because Knies + Raddysh > Werenski or Fox.
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You can replace Knies in FA with a winger, say Tuch

Fox and Tuch>>>>>Knies and Raddysh
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
You can replace Knies in FA with a winger, say Tuch

Fox and Tuch>>>>>Knies and Raddysh
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Except that Tuch is also 29 and going on the downswing soon, and those two guys will cost you over $20M.

Whereas Knies is 23 and him plus Raddysh might only cost you $15M.

Not to mention, didn't Tuch just go pointless or something in that last series?
 
Volcanologist said:
it's a definite pass. I'd much rather keep Knies if that was the best offer.
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Yep. Again, my preference would be to not trade Knies at all.

But if we are trading him, it should only be for a stud #1 in his prime with multiple years of control. Not an over-the-hill former stud #1 in his 30’s. Not a pending UFA. Not for a “decent top-pair/top-4 defenseman”. And not for a defensemen who might potentially become a stud #1. Only for the genuine article, period.

Otherwise, keep Knies.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
But it's not. It's ripping a hole in the team by removing Knies. I'd love to get those guys, but it's such a simple, easy decision and better outcome to keep Knies and get Raddysh for free. Do I care that Raddysh isn't as good as those guys? Not in the least.

Because Knies + Raddysh > Werenski or Fox.
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But it isn't an either or for Werenski/Fox and Raddysh. You can (and probably should) do both.

Werenski/Fox + Raddysh >> Knies + Raddysh and they're basically AAV equivalent.

This all just comes down to you massively overrating Knies.
 
LeafGm said:
Yep. Again, my preference would be to not trade Knies at all.

But if we are trading him, it should only be for a stud #1 in his prime with multiple years of control. Not an over-the-hill former stud #1 in his 30’s. Not a pending UFA. Not for a “decent top-pair/top-4 defenseman”. And not for a defensemen who might potentially become a stud #1. Only for the genuine article, period.

Otherwise, keep Knies.
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or, the equivalent at centre

but yeah
 
Like there are no guarantees you can sign any FA so the question becomes what is more valuable Knies or Fox/Werenski

It’s not even close

Then you ask do I need a D or W more? And which of those is easier to acquire?
 
MindzEye said:
But it isn't an either or for Werenski/Fox and Raddysh. You can (and probably should) do both.

Werenski/Fox + Raddysh >> Knies + Raddysh and they're basically AAV equivalent.

This all just comes down to you massively overrating Knies.
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No, because again, you're tearing a young power winger out of your lineup for nothing.

Andersson just came off basically a 50 point season and is the same age as those guys. Especially if I'm getting Raddysh too, why do I so desperately need to remove Knies to get the extra upgrade from Andersson to Fox?
 
LeafOfFaith said:
No, because again, you're tearing a young power winger out of your lineup for nothing.

Andersson just came off basically a 50 point season and is the same age as those guys. Especially if I'm getting Raddysh too, why do I so desperately need to remove Knies to get the extra upgrade from Andersson to Fox?
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The extra upgrade from middle pair to Norris candidate is massive
 
I think we all agree that the odds of a good Knies trade being out there are pretty low. But to not even explore it would be dumb. They have a huge gaping hole on d with no way to fill it in the short term.
 
Preston said:
I think we all agree that the odds of a good Knies trade being out there are pretty low. But to not even explore it would be dumb. They have a huge gaping hole on d with no way to fill it in the short term.
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I just don't understand this. Wait till July 1. Maybe by then the D looks like:

Rielly Andersson
McCabe Raddysh
OEL Tanev
Andrae

With Carlo full on excess.

Where is the gaping hole in that D?
 
Preston said:
I think we all agree that the odds of a good Knies trade being out there are pretty low. But to not even explore it would be dumb. They have a huge gaping hole on d with no way to fill it in the short term.
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Dont you mean to say they have a big gaping hole with no d to fill it?
 
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