OT: The Official Toronto Raptors Thread

[Preston]

View: https://x.com/i/status/2071763449764577577

 

[LeafOfFaith]

I keep wanting to hear the same report from different people over and over.

Gimme the trade already!

 

[Preston]

It sounds like the raps can make a deal right now if they wanna! But they don't. They're offering Maccelli Carlo and a 3rd for Kawhi and are saying take it or leave it. The clippers are leaving it for now.

Tldr: they're doing the lof playbook. Be patient

 

[MindzEye]

There will be posturing and fuckery here for however long. Clippers want CMB and will pretend that they would rather have malcontent Kawhi on their team than give him up for less.

The question is whether we end up giving a 2nd first rounder to get the deal done or if Bobby stands on his business.

 

[CH1]

No extra 1st rounder.. take or leave it

 

[LeafOfFaith]

It sounds like the raps can make a deal right now if they wanna! But they don't. They're offering Maccelli Carlo and a 3rd for Kawhi and are saying take it or leave it. The clippers are leaving it for now.

Tldr: they're doing the lof playbook. Be patient

I'm patient but NBA trades are typically rumored for around five seconds and then immediately consummated.

Too much foreplay.

 

[CH1]

I'm patient but NBA trades are typically rumored for around five seconds and then immediately consummated.

Too much foreplay.

kawhi time is different

He wants to stay there… the Clips have to decide if they want him

 

[Preston]

I'm patient but NBA trades are typically rumored for around five seconds and then immediately consummated.

Too much foreplay.

Deals get done fast usually cuz there is a lot of competition for the same dudes. In this case, it's kind of raps or nothing. So there could be a lot of patience on #bothsides

 

[LeafOfFaith]

kawhi time is different

He wants to stay there… the Clips have to decide if they want him

It's been the equivalent of a full season of the Bachelor though.

Give me Love Connection in half an hour and then switch to another channel!

 

[axlsalinger]

View: https://x.com/JWeinbachNBA/status/2071747979153727708?s=20

 

[Deckie007]

Someone text me those guys addresses. I'll pick them up myself.

 

[MindzEye]

Shams update. He sounds pretty sure that this is happening


View: https://streamable.com/lic8qa

 

[LeafOfFaith]

If he wants to stay in LA, why doesn't he just play out the year and worry about this next year when he can sign anywhere?

 

[Preston]

LA Guy gets forced into playing in Canada, the one place he didn't want to go to. Wins a championship, leaves to go home, 7 years later forces his way back to Toronto to end his career?

Kind of unrealistic but I'd watch that movie.

 

[Preston]

If he wants to stay in LA, why doesn't he just play out the year and worry about this next year when he can sign anywhere?

So he can risk a career ending injury and leave hundreds of millions on the table?

 

[MindzEye]

If Kawhi forces his way back here, and we do anything at all in the playoffs over the next few years, he gets his number retired here.

 

[LeafOfFaith]

So he can risk a career ending injury and leave hundreds of millions on the table?

I mean, he's not exactly hurting and he's near the end of his career. If life in LA is so important to him, is it worth uprooting on the small chance he has a career ending injury?

 

[MindzEye]

If he wants to stay in LA, why doesn't he just play out the year and worry about this next year when he can sign anywhere?

A couple of reasons. Preston touched on the first, it's kind of crazy to not have guaranteed money and go into your last season without an extension. You risk all sorts of things going wrong and leaving 100+ million on the table.

The other main reason is cap related. In the NBA, a team can't go over the cap to sign a free agent, but a re signing team can go over the cap to extend a current player. So you can't really sign "anywhere" when you're Kawhi if you want ~60 million per. It would require a team clearing enough cap space to sign you, which is pretty tricky. Like, we're 25 million over the cap right now. If he wanted to come here next year we wouldn't have the space to sign him.

 

[MindzEye]

is it worth uprooting on the small chance he has a career ending injury?

Considering that he's been playing with a career altering injury for 8+ years now, and he could easily earn another 180 million on his next deal?

Yes.

 

[Preston]

I mean, he's not exactly hurting and he's near the end of his career. If life in LA is so important to him, is it worth uprooting on the small chance he has a career ending injury?

Ok I'll turn it around on you then. Even if Kawhi doesn't care about potentially losing hundreds of millions of dollars, why would the clippers not trade him and get some assets, when they've already decided that they're moving on from him?