JackBurton
Well-known member
At this point they can't say anything. They are fucked. Just ban them from the media. CJ, who is not a media member with dumb hot takes sounded so dejected this morning.
GDT 7: Leafs @ Canes, 7 pm, SN - Fuck you Jobu...
- Thread starter leafman101
- Start date
Volcanologist
Well-known member
yeah, for the fans.
Killer93
Well-known member
The only untouchables for me are Matthews, Willy, and Sandman. Everyone else it should be open season. I guess I would hang on to Spezza as well if he wants to be here
LeafGm
Well-known member
Yeah, I’ve learned to not automatically set time aside for them in the evening whenever they’ve got a game, and if I do decide to watch, to quickly turn the game off when the entertainment value is zero.
Some good lessons.
JackBurton
Well-known member
Does he still get paid by the Leafs? Because they look like chumps allowing this. I'm so tired of this organization being so nice.
leafman101
Well-known member
The Canes are like Team Iceland. Talk a lot of shit, but still lose in the end.
SundinsTooth
Leafs Moderator
very good advice. I turned it off near the middle of the second period and my evening immediately improved.
leafman101
Well-known member
I still can't get over how many times two Leafs skated into each other. They need more Hainsey's that stand in the right spot.
LeafGm
Well-known member
The timing was pretty much identical for me. After the 2-1 goal, I turned off the TV and grabbed a book to read, and actually enjoyed the rest of my evening.
runninglow
Active member
Kinda looking like this with Keefe. Team is disinterested and disorganized, doesn't start games with energy or desire, hasn't been pushing back when down. For having some of the best offensive forwards in the league, the PP is disastrously 26th (oddly, better than Colorado who've had COVID issues)...and it's becoming a multi-season issue. Only the PK has been good. One item...one.
Cutting Keefe and company may be the first step prior to sending out all the talent...good underlying numbers, but if there's no results, XGF doesn't mean squat. Maybe Keefe needed more seasoning in the AHL (dude has only been coaching professionals for 6 years...that's pretty meteoric)
WellPlayed
Well-known member
The team quit on Babcock... I don't really blame them after some of the stories that came out. But if they are quitting on a guy after just two shortened seasons, there's a problem with the core straight up. Keefe has won at every level he's coached and by all accounts is a players coach who guys in the OHL and AHL were willing to go through a wall for. If these bunch of coddled rich boys quit on him, start shipping them out.
Matthews acting like a spoiled punk toward Keefe for being asked to focus on defense against McDavid and co in that Amazon documentary sure seems like a red flag right now.
Matthews acting like a spoiled punk toward Keefe for being asked to focus on defense against McDavid and co in that Amazon documentary sure seems like a red flag right now.
trujaysfan
Well-known member
Moving marner midseason would be tough.
runninglow
Active member
Coaches grow on trees and are easy to find if you're looking for a quick fix. 90-100 point Olympic hopeful forwards are not.
Change coaches. If that doesn't work, change the core in the off-season when trading $11M contracts is actually feasible.
WellPlayed
Well-known member
They did change coaches... less than a season and a half worth of games ago.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Honestly I find myself aligning with the idea that letting these two bury another coach that they don't like is a bad idea. Its time for them to be uncomfortable and find a way. The org has done everything. Let Lou walk, fired Babcock, paid them top dollar, got rid of Lou era policies, went further than any club in the league on dress code for games, etc. Its time for them to find a way to make this work, the organization has done enough pandering
LeafGm
Well-known member
As much as I understand why it happened with Babcock, you absolutely can’t let these guys quit on another coach and run him out of town mid-season.
The endless coddling of these guys and bending to their every whim has to stop somewhere. Especially when they’ve rewarded the organization with zero real success since they ran Babcock out of town.
The endless coddling of these guys and bending to their every whim has to stop somewhere. Especially when they’ve rewarded the organization with zero real success since they ran Babcock out of town.
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
The team has pretty clearly made some systems issues that they’re struggling with.
gone are any stretch passes, less speed through the neutral zone, less east - west possession play, the 5 man cycle in the o-zone with the forward up high.
In the ozone we’re seeing two forwards in front of the net, less cycle play and more focus on point shots
They seem to still want their d to play aggressively at the points, and they still struggle to get shots through, so there have been lots of odd man rushes against.
it also looks like more dump ins / fewer controlled entries but that may be circumstantial.
I thought all the guys skating into each other yesterday was pretty telling, though, that the system has changed and something isn’t working.
gone are any stretch passes, less speed through the neutral zone, less east - west possession play, the 5 man cycle in the o-zone with the forward up high.
In the ozone we’re seeing two forwards in front of the net, less cycle play and more focus on point shots
They seem to still want their d to play aggressively at the points, and they still struggle to get shots through, so there have been lots of odd man rushes against.
it also looks like more dump ins / fewer controlled entries but that may be circumstantial.
I thought all the guys skating into each other yesterday was pretty telling, though, that the system has changed and something isn’t working.