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Antropov has 34 points in 38 games. I don't need to bet on anything to say he's basically a PPG player.

And the team Burke has iced this year is almost identical to the one he inherited. The only new players on the roster are Kessel, Primeau, Wallin, Orr, Komi, Beauch, and Gus - and only a couple of them are what you might call impact.
 
Antropov has 34 points in 38 games. I don't need to bet on anything to say he's basically a PPG player.

And the team Burke has iced this year is almost identical to the one he inherited. The only new players on the roster are Kessel, Primeau, Wallin, Orr, Komi, Beauch, and Gus - and only a couple of them are what you might call impact.

Other than Wallin, I'd argue that they've all had a significant impact on the way this team plays.

...and 7 players is roughly a third of a team.
 
Antropov has 34 points in 38 games. I don't need to bet on anything to say he's basically a PPG player.

And the team Burke has iced this year is almost identical to the one he inherited. The only new players on the roster are Kessel, Primeau, Wallin, Orr, Komi, Beauch, and Gus - and only a couple of them are what you might call impact.

Plekanec > Antropov
 
Other than Wallin, I'd argue that they've all had a significant impact on the way this team plays.

...and 7 players is roughly a third of a team.

Kessel, Komi, Beauch, and Gus. They're the only ones that have had any sort of impact.

4 out of 22.
 
They're impact players, but the point he made was the way the team is playing this year, and that's a TEAM issue - 4 or 5 players do not dictate the whole team's play. And the good majority of the roster was inherited.
 
Ugh, Rome wasn't built in a day. Burke hasn't done much with his auxiliary pieces but he has started laying down the proverbial tracks (so to speak). Adding Komisarek, Beauchemin and Kessel, and signing Gustavsson were all very big moves. This is the starting point, not the finish line.
 
Well this year was only step one. There are a lot of guys on the roster who won't be back next year.

Agreed. It takes a couple of seasons to turn a team around, especially when they don't have a strong core of players already in place. Just wait to see what Burkey does with another trade deadline and FA period. Unless of course, we make a playoff run (which is looking good right now).
 
Agreed. It takes a couple of seasons to turn a team around, especially when they don't have a strong core of players already in place. Just wait to see what Burkey does with another trade deadline and FA period. Unless of course, we make a playoff run (which is looking good right now).

That's just it. When Burke came aboard the Leafs had exactly ONE player who you would label as a 'core' player (Kaberle).

He has added three and potentially four more (depending on how Gustavsson turns out). He has 2, maybe 3 more pieces to add. But this process takes time. It isn't easy to find a player like Kessel -- and Burke managed to do that. No Leafs GM has since 1994.

Patience and perspective are certainly needed here.
 
Which is that you don't trust Burke with making roster changes, because he clearly doesn't know what he's doing.
 
No, you said:

Burke's "values" have iced a much more intense, inspired team this season - I don't see how you can't see that.

And I'm saying, this much more "intense and inspired team" consists of around 15 players that Burke had no part in acquiring, guys that were already there.

You can't try to pass off this team as being created in Burke's image when there's only around 4 guys who make an impact on a regular basis that he brought in.
 
There is an undercurrent in the Ilya Kovalchuk negotiations that goes far beyond what most protracted player-management negotiations eventually come down to, which is, of course: “Pay me like I’m great, because I am,” countered immediately by, “You’d be a lot greater if we could find a helmet to fit over your inflated, blimpy head.”

And that undercurrent is this: Hockey’s uncertain future in Atlanta.

If the Thrashers can’t re-sign Kovalchuk – and I now believe the chances of a deal are just this side of dead — it will be at least in part because of the backdrop of ownership’s uncertain long-term commitment to hockey and the possibility of the franchise being sold and moved during the period of Kovalchuk’s contract.

This has become abundantly clear, especially given Kovalchuk’s recent comments about desiring to spend the rest of his career in Atlanta, and Waddell’s contention that these talks are all about money. If Waddell believes that all Kovalchuk cares about is money, he’s failing to recognize that it’s the only thing the player can control.

I don’t blame Kovalchuk if he’s asking for a max contract (annual salary equal to 20 percent of the team’s cap, or currently about $11 million) for probably 10 to 12 years.

I also wouldn’t blame Waddell (or ownership) if they say, “We can’t do that,” and Kovalchuk ends up being traded before the deadline. The real problem is what led to all of this.

Years of mismanagement and/or neglect ran down a franchise in a second-chance NHL market, where commissioner Gary Bettman desperately wants hockey to succeed. Even with matters at the Atlanta Spirit somewhat stabilizing (emphasis on somewhat), the Steve Belkin vs. non-Belkins matter is not yet closed. Ultimately, Belkin likely will be out of the picture. Rumors persist that the remaining owners will be looking to sell the team (something they’ve long denied). Problem: Finding an owner who would keep the team in Atlanta is not going to be easy, especially in this economy.

Back to Kovalchuk. He and his wife, Nicole, have two children and a third on the way. They’re settled. When Kovalchuk says his first choice is to stay here, I believe him. (When Marian Hossa said it, I laughed inside.)

A player can ask for a no-trade clause in his contract. But he can’t ask for a clause that reads, “If the franchise relocates to Winnipeg or Quebec, the player can opt out.” Doesn’t work that way. And I would like to see the look on the face of the next owner when the Thrashers tell him, “Well, we can bring Todd White with us but not Kovalchuk.”

Kovalchuk can’t be guaranteed of anything: 1) That the Atlanta Spirit will keep the team and spend to keep and acquire players (according to NHLnumbers.com, the Thrashers rank only 23rd out of 30 teams in payroll); 2) That anybody who purchases the team will keep it in Atlanta and also spend to compete.

Look at the past. Look at the present. Look at the future. There is no reason for Kovalchuk to feel comfortable.

The only thing he can control is his salary. (And by the way: Do you really believe the difference in him making $9 million and $11 million next season will be the difference in whether the Thrashers are successful or not, given what we’ve witnessed?) Given everything, and the fact he is staring at unrestricted free agency, why would he not ask for the most he can get? Would he get it on the open market? Probably yes. It only takes one big-market team to jump (New York, Philadelphia, Boston, Toronto, or maybe star-crazed Los Angeles).

Even if Kovalchuk’s next deal falls short of the max, he still can control where he signs. He can pick a stable franchise, one that he believes is committed to winning — and staying put.

The Thrashers offer no guarantees. Please excuse Kovalchuk if he wants something more.


http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-b...ain-future-playing-a-role-in-kovalchuk-talks/
 
No, you said:



And I'm saying, this much more "intense and inspired team" consists of around 15 players that Burke had no part in acquiring, guys that were already there.

You can't try to pass off this team as being created in Burke's image when there's only around 4 guys who make an impact on a regular basis that he brought in.

The guys are a much tougher team to play against because their toughest player is no longer a 19 y/o rookie. The forecheck, the scrums - Hell even Kaberle is no longer afraid to throw his weight around (and is having a career year to boot).
 
And this all because Burke holds the GM title?

Even though he already WAS the GM midway through last season?

Sorry, don't buy it.
 
I agree with that principle in general, but not in this case.

The vast majority of the roster are holdovers. And the guys you mentioned haven't been lighting the world on fire or anything to have infected anyone else on the team.
 
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