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Signature move has to be the Hot Karl.
Leafs/Habs/Sens 2014-15
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Signature move has to be the Hot Karl.
JackBurton
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Nice to see the Sens getting g negative attention for the Ryan signing. The media was blowing them non-stop this time last year.
Wayward DP
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Heh, Johnny's back in mid-season form. Well done. Guess he's gotta enjoy it before the Sens are too hopelessly out of the playoff picture...
lecoqsportif
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He lost the Markov shield.
JackBurton
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I never bought that. Did Markov make him lead the NHL in hits and blocked shots? Komi was very solid for a couple of seasons. It was injuries, not the loss of Markov that hurt his career.
JohnnyHolmes
Banned
:lol
The Leafs are worse than the Sens...remember?
The Leafs are worse than the Sens...remember?
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Congrats, you got way more loser points than we did.
I'd have a hard time calling a team that won more games, and had a better goal differential "worse" though. I know you're just trolling and "facts" don't really matter though. I guess we'll just have to wait and see whose going to be better this season....the team that lost their #1 centre, or the team that made a shit ton of good depth additions.
Bleedsblue&white
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Were.
And barely at that, like comparing shit stains in your underwear.
This season though? You're the rented mule.
JohnnyHolmes
Banned
My first reaction is that those are both the same team.
My second reaction is... ooooooohhhhh depth!
Congrats on the pre-season title JH.
LeafGm
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Sens fans may wish they had more forward depth not too far into the season. As is, their bottom six looks pretty ugly. I don't know who exactly will end up making up the Sens' bottom two lines, but I guess it'll likely be six of:
Chris Neil, Colin Greening, Mike Hoffman, Mark Stone, Zack Smith, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Erik Condra, Zibanejad/Legwand.
Even counting whichever of Mika Zibanejad or David Legwand slots in as the Sens' #3 center, the Sens will be able to count themselves extremely fortunate if even two or three of the dregs making up their bottom-six forwards manages to crack the 20-point plateau.
And then that goes along with a top-six group of forwards that's lacking any kind of real first-line talent. Bobby Ryan leads the way with two 60+ point seasons under his belt...though they happened in Anaheim four and five years ago respectively. Following up is Michalek, who's also done it twice; once three years ago and another time eight years ago, though all he managed last year in a full 82-game schedule was 39 points. Then there's MacArthur, who hit the 60 point mark once four years ago in the miracle season for Kulemin-Grabbo-MacA. I guess Sens fans can also hope for continued improvement from Kyle Turris, but after that, that's about it.
Chris Neil, Colin Greening, Mike Hoffman, Mark Stone, Zack Smith, Jean-Gabriel Pageau, Erik Condra, Zibanejad/Legwand.
Even counting whichever of Mika Zibanejad or David Legwand slots in as the Sens' #3 center, the Sens will be able to count themselves extremely fortunate if even two or three of the dregs making up their bottom-six forwards manages to crack the 20-point plateau.
And then that goes along with a top-six group of forwards that's lacking any kind of real first-line talent. Bobby Ryan leads the way with two 60+ point seasons under his belt...though they happened in Anaheim four and five years ago respectively. Following up is Michalek, who's also done it twice; once three years ago and another time eight years ago, though all he managed last year in a full 82-game schedule was 39 points. Then there's MacArthur, who hit the 60 point mark once four years ago in the miracle season for Kulemin-Grabbo-MacA. I guess Sens fans can also hope for continued improvement from Kyle Turris, but after that, that's about it.
zeke
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I don't think they look all that bad.
Karlsson heals a lot of ills, especially their lack of first line forward talent, and their goaltending should be solid.
Mac-Turris-Ryan isn't a great first line but it should be competent, if below average.
Mich-Legwand-Chiasson should be an average 2nd line.
Greening - Ziba - Stone/Lazar/Puempel/Pageau/Hoffman should be an average third line.
Neil - Smith - Condra is a quality fourth line.
Karlsson - Methot is an excellent first pair, because Karlsson is fricken awesome.
Ceci-Phillips should be a passable 2nd pair, though they'd fit better as a bottom pair.
Cowen/Gryba/Wiercioch should be fine as a bottom pair.
Anderson/Lehner should be at worst average goaltending, and potentially excellent.
I think they're probably on the outside looking in but I don't think they're horrible. If Walrus can get them to buy in defensively like they did 2yrs ago, then they have a chance to make the playoffs, though that was probably a fluke at the time.
Karlsson heals a lot of ills, especially their lack of first line forward talent, and their goaltending should be solid.
Mac-Turris-Ryan isn't a great first line but it should be competent, if below average.
Mich-Legwand-Chiasson should be an average 2nd line.
Greening - Ziba - Stone/Lazar/Puempel/Pageau/Hoffman should be an average third line.
Neil - Smith - Condra is a quality fourth line.
Karlsson - Methot is an excellent first pair, because Karlsson is fricken awesome.
Ceci-Phillips should be a passable 2nd pair, though they'd fit better as a bottom pair.
Cowen/Gryba/Wiercioch should be fine as a bottom pair.
Anderson/Lehner should be at worst average goaltending, and potentially excellent.
I think they're probably on the outside looking in but I don't think they're horrible. If Walrus can get them to buy in defensively like they did 2yrs ago, then they have a chance to make the playoffs, though that was probably a fluke at the time.
JohnnyHolmes
Banned
First of all I should commend Zeke for his attempt at looking unbiased. Very strong.
LeafGM... we have better options ready in the wings but contracts and egos are likely to disrupt that. So while our bottom 6 may chew, it's not the best bottom 6 that we could put out there.
Come on...you're a Leafs fan. Don't pretend you don't know how the politics of pro sports works.
I obviously can't prove this, but I suspect that a couple of habs fans had some "in your face" pie ready for me when it was 2-1, but as it ended 4-2...
Yeah it's just preseason, and doesn't mean squat, but it's still fun to beat your two closest opponents regardless of whether the games count or not.
Even though Ottawa finished higher in the standings than the Leafs last season, and mopped the floor with the Habs the playoffs the year before, they still get no rispeck.
Getting rid of Spezza was a huge move. Yeah he's talented, but at the same time, he's a loser. Or at least not a winner. He's not a leader. If he was he'd still be a Senator.
I just don't see any scenario where Ottawa is weaker than they were last year. And even then they finished ahead of the Leafs, loser point or not.
If you don't like it, try to change the rules. I'd be onboard. I hate the OTL and the shootout win.
LeafGM... we have better options ready in the wings but contracts and egos are likely to disrupt that. So while our bottom 6 may chew, it's not the best bottom 6 that we could put out there.
Come on...you're a Leafs fan. Don't pretend you don't know how the politics of pro sports works.
I obviously can't prove this, but I suspect that a couple of habs fans had some "in your face" pie ready for me when it was 2-1, but as it ended 4-2...
Yeah it's just preseason, and doesn't mean squat, but it's still fun to beat your two closest opponents regardless of whether the games count or not.
Even though Ottawa finished higher in the standings than the Leafs last season, and mopped the floor with the Habs the playoffs the year before, they still get no rispeck.
Getting rid of Spezza was a huge move. Yeah he's talented, but at the same time, he's a loser. Or at least not a winner. He's not a leader. If he was he'd still be a Senator.
I just don't see any scenario where Ottawa is weaker than they were last year. And even then they finished ahead of the Leafs, loser point or not.
If you don't like it, try to change the rules. I'd be onboard. I hate the OTL and the shootout win.
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hockeylover
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The only things that you rated likely to being above average compared to other teams there are their 4th line and their top pairing on D though. Doesn't that actually sound pretty dismal?