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Lineup Your Lineups Brendan Shanahan Edition

Yea he's not that slow.

He's the best defensively among Spezza and Staal.

Staal to me would be the ideal get, but he'd be expensive to get in terms of what we have to give up.
 
I think Clarkson can go back to a 15-20 goal player if we even had one line whose game it was to play the boards and cycle. We don't have that right now, but you'd think that would change by default with the player and coaching turnover we're about to execute.
 
I like Stastny as a player, but hasn't Bozak already shown that he can do everything Stas does, for less.

Guy played at a 25g/70pt pace this season.
 
Bozak played at that pace...but Statsny is a better player.

Stas played at a 25g/70pt pace too.

Neither is terribly big or physical, both are good at face-offs.. is a marginal difference worth an extra $1.5-$2mil?
 
bozak/kadri
bozak/statsny

isn't really that much impressive one over the other either way

if we're going to touch the top 2 center lines we need to go big like the ppl suggesting eric staal.
 
Stas played at a 25g/70pt pace too.

Neither is terribly big or physical, both are good at face-offs.. is a marginal difference worth an extra $1.5-$2mil?

Fwiw, Statsny is used in far more difficult defensive match up situations and has scored at similar levels previously, over entire seasons when Bozak has only done it over 2 very isolated periods, and in this last one, had two premier wingers flanking him.
 
What we really need is a Peter Stastny, not a Paul. I don't see the sense in locking up more cap in a non-elite talent down the middle, it will only make it even harder to get that player.

Unless Bozak/Kadri is traded and we need another #2 calibre centreman, of course...then it could make some sense as a replacement.
 
Stasnty would be our best center by a mile. They need to improve up the middle. It is a necessity.

Stastny may not be the ideal choice, but at this point he is the best one.
 
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What we really need is a Peter Stastny, not a Paul. I don't see the sense in locking up more cap in a non-elite talent down the middle, it will only make it even harder to get that player.

Unless Bozak/Kadri is traded and we need another #2 calibre centreman, of course...then it could make some sense as a replacement.

I'm on the fence when it comes to a stastny acquisition, but where I see the logic is that once you're done kicking all the tires on the 15-20 centres in the league better than him, if you're not getting a Spezza or a Staal, then we have a choice. Lean on Bozak + Kadri and a 2.5-4 million dollar centre acquisition for the 3rd line, or spend a few million more on Stastny to at least upgrade the position. He would immediately become our best matchup option against opposition top lines (which frankly, gets Kessel the **** away from having to play defence against 1st lines...which is good). He's good enough to drive a line on his own with adequate wingers and puts us in a better position to shelter Kadri's matchups and see if a kids like Leivo, Ashton, etc who have AHL offensive pedigree, can put up points off of some of Naz's tasty dishes.


Without getting into some crazier scenarios, here's sort of what that could look like

Lupul (5.25) - Bozak (4.2) - Kessel (8.0)
JVR (4.25) - Stastny (6.0) - Clarkson (5.25)
D'Amigo (.85) - Kadri (2.9) - C.Stewart (4.15)
Ashton (.85) - Holland (1.2) - Whoever
Whoever

Phaneuf (7.0) - Pitkanen/Zidlicky (4.5)
Gunnar (3.15) - Gardiner (2.0)
Ranger (1.5) - Rielly (.89)
Granberg (.8)

Bernier (2.9)
Greiss (1.75)

Total damage = ~ 68.5 million
 
Why is assumption that's stats will only cost 6m? Cap is going up and he's the best Center in a weak market.

But I don't want to give big years to anyone, if not the final answer. Rather wait another year then give term to a stop gap to what we actually need.
 
Why is assumption that's stats will only cost 6m? Cap is going up and he's the best Center in a weak market.

But I don't want to give big years to anyone, if not the final answer. Rather wait another year then give term to a stop gap to what we actually need.

Ribeiro was the best centre in a weak market last season and got what, 5.5?
 
Ribeiro was the best centre in a weak market last season and got what, 5.5?

With a shrinking cap from year before. Different environment this year. Wouldn't be surprised if he can get more, assuming cap is going up as everyone seems to report on tv
 
With a shrinking cap from year before. Different environment this year. Wouldn't be surprised if he can get more, assuming cap is going up as everyone seems to report on tv

I don't think the difference is worth discussing. Can he get 6.25 or even 6.5 out of something? Maybe.
 
Stastny isn't a stop gap. He isn't a top 15 franchise center, but barring getting one of those who are never available he is the best you will do. 23rd in scoring among centers over the last 3 years, top defensive center, and top faceoff guy. All around he is a legit 1st line center.

He's a Bergeron type.
 
Im not sure about Bergeron type, but he's an upgrade for sure.

Unless a trade comes up for Staal, i would be making a move for Stastny.
 
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