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OT: Movies/TV Shows

SundinsTooth said:
Euphoria on HBO is surprising. Was not expecting what they are doing with this show about teenagers. No teenage tropes, no mean cliques. Lots of drugs and sex and beatings. And visually wild. Features a drug dealer from hell who could easily slide into a Breaking Bad episode.
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i did watch the first episode

seems interesting anyway


watching big little lies as well - first season was pretty good
 
I still haven't caught endgame so I think I'll do that tomorrow then spidey on Thursday


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Volcanologist said:
you can ruin almost anything if you make it only about money.
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+1

Especially when Netflix two biggest streaming competitors in the near term, Amazon and Disney are focusing on solid franchises to build their platforms on. Amazon owns the rights to Lord of the Rings, Wheel of Time, The Grand Tour, Man in the High Castle, Tom Clancy's work and they seem committed to doing high quality stuff. Disney, well, owns ****ing everything. When people start to make choices between their streaming sources, they're likely going to keep the providers doing the best original content.
 
I think the feeling is, people won’t make choices to cut. That Netflix, Disney and Amazon will all be part of a user’s slate.

It’s all about getting the subscriber in the first place.
 
I think their feeling is wrong though. Their biggest user demo are millenials, who tend to be less financially well off than their parents were and tend to be much more frugal as well. They're not looking at trading a 100-150 dollar internet and cable bill for 100-150 dollar internet and streaming bill. They're looking at paying 40-50 bucks for internet and then having 1-2 streaming services (that they can usually share the passwords for with friends to split costs).
 
MindzEye said:
I think their feeling is wrong though. Their biggest user demo are millenials, who tend to be less financially well off than their parents were and tend to be much more frugal as well. They're not looking at trading a 100-150 dollar internet and cable bill for 100-150 dollar internet and streaming bill. They're looking at paying 40-50 bucks for internet and then having 1-2 streaming services (that they can usually share the passwords for with friends to split costs).
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I think the $15 or whatever that Netflix is now is too negligible to the bottom line to care enough to cut out. And I don’t think having Disney and Amazon too will phase them much. Entertainment is at the top of the list of expenses, just like the $5 per day coffee budget. These things are essentials and don’t make dents for them. But mortgages and car payments do. They’re cool racking up bills on the fringe shit. But who knows. We’ll only find out once all of them are available and see if any of them lose subscribers, which really just boils down to whether Disney’s service will cause users to drop their existing streamers.
 
I think I agree with mindz. At least anecdotally myself and most of my peers are already taking about which streaming service we're going to go with. I'm already considering cutting Netflix with or without a Disney already. We're all cheap ass mother truckers, especially my Asian friends.
 
I’m not expecting everyone to maintain all of them, but I guess it would surprise me if a lot of people really went through with cutting an existing service for the money and then spent 20x that amount per month at Starbucks.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I’m not expecting everyone to maintain all of them, but I guess it would surprise me if a lot of people really went through with cutting an existing service for the money and then spent 20x that amount per month at Starbucks.
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Those same people already made cuts though, a ton of them have cut cable out entirely. It's not about weighing value props of entertainment vs coffee, it's about weighing value prop between cable vs streaming. They didn't cut cable to spend the same money on streaming. There's a ****ton of consumer research and polling to support this. People in large numbers woke up to how silly it was to spend ~150 a month on (bad) home entertainment and the prevailing wisdom in market research seems to be that they'll pick 1-2 paid streaming services once the market fully balkanizes as a premium add on to their free offerings (OTA, android box, roku, apple TV, etc) and they have no interest in going from 150 dollar cable bill to 150 dollar internet + streaming bill. Especially for a demo that has less disposable income than it's predecessor did at the same age.
 
Leafin' said:
Time to put on that pirate hat
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Yeah, that seems to show up heavy in the market research. This is a generation that grew up pirating and knows how to go back to it. There is going to be a whole lot of "I'll choose my 2 favourite content lineups and pirate the rest".
 
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