OT: The News Thread
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blacksheep
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... says the prissy drama queen herself.
IrishWolfman
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Reading this, I had a thought.
Can one of our photoshop whizzes marry these two image in a comical way?
Extra credit if someone can make a "Rob Ford Boss" style poster using a night time view of the Toronto waterfront.
leafman101
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Hypothetically speaking if there was a video Ford knew about it far before we did.
JaysCyYoung
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The Epic of Gilgamesh is clearly based in fact! It's almost 5,000 years old after all, therefore it must have been a major unifying and organizing force in human history!
JaysCyYoung
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If you and I lived in Portadown twenty five years I go I so would have taken you out.
JaysCyYoung
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Actually, significant portions of the Bible are rooted in historically-valid, archaeological fact. It involves real people who are documented to have existed and science has validated many of the stores and individuals referenced.
The problem is that many of the tales are farcical fables meant to illustrate a point. One should take the aspects verified for their authentic historicity and remove them from the obvious human-inspired fiction meant to convey a spiritual lesson.
There is a key difference between the two different elements of the text.
JaysCyYoung
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And in a sense of obviously irony they happen to be Protestant countries (UK, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland, Germany, the United States, etc).
Whereas Christian-majority countries in which the majority of believers are fervent Catholics tend to have severe issues with sexual diseases, domestic abuse, political corruption and have significantly inferior HDI rankings.
Coincidence?
JaysCyYoung
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I have two friends (one male, one female) who work on Ford's staff as assistants and they've basically confirmed most of the bizarre stories concerning the man's behaviour.
He's extremely unbalanced by all accounts.
JaysCyYoung
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lecoqsportif
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So none of it is divine. Anyway, the fables were simply are construct of prevailing Greek methods to convey ideas though allegory. Aesop's way.
Scripture wasn't supposed to be interpreted literally.
JaysCyYoung
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Well, large sections of the Hebrew Torah (the first five books of the Christian Bible) are significantly older than classical Greek antiquity, but your point rings accurate for the New Testament content. None of those tales dates from earlier than the first century AD in most instances, with earlier Greek allegories and fables dating anywhere from five hundred to seven hundred years earlier in date. The oldest tales in the Bible pre-date Greek epics however, with the exception of the Trojan War, which is roughly equivalent with the hypothesized time of the Exodus from Egypt (and even that was only told by Homer around 750 BC).
Also true. There is evidence of cities on the Jordan Plain having been destroyed by fire through ash deposits at ancient levels in the local geological strata, of years of famine and pestilence in Egypt during the eighteenth dynasty, and of the walls of Jericho having been leveled by a cataclysmic event during the twelfth century BC, amongst other instances of historicity. However, I severely doubt it was on the basis of a pissed off, vengeful, and permanently insecure Hebrew desert deity.
The historically-verifiable parallels certainly fascinate me though.
zeke
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yeah, I'm not sure any of that changes what i said.
lecoqsportif
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Yah Jays, I was referring to the New Testament.
lecoqsportif
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Same with the great flood too and Noah, I think. Not sure if it's linked to the tidal wave that was triggered by the Santorini volcano blowing sky high and smashing though the Hellespont or something else, I might be mixing up ancient natural disasters. But the geologists have figured a lot of it out, apparently.
JaysCyYoung
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I'm not particularly religious for the record, although I do find The Bible fascinating.
I've mainly just been on a kick of old A and E programming on YouTube recently and Mysteries of the Bible is one series I'm re-watching, so the knowledge is more recent. :lol
JaysCyYoung
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The Thera disaster is incidentally one that scholars have also long pointed to as having been the original inspiration for the Atlantis mythos. Plato was reportedly told through Herodotus' written accounts by Egyptian priests that the disaster occurred 9,000 years ago, but many historians have long since speculated that they intended to say 900, which fits into the time-frame for the Thera/Santorini eruption (around 1450 BC) rather than the alternative Neolithic date when humans hadn't even established many organized sedentary societies yet.
lecoqsportif
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It's part if our history. One simple interpretation I've seen is that rabbis, who were pissed off at the smarty pants Greeks and their logic that kept punching holes in ancient Jewish scriptures, ended up creating a new cult/religion by trying to square it all. Ooops. Apparently this work was largely centred in Alexandria.
My personal and totally uninformed theory, and I will never lift a finger to actually research this, is that Jesus was a MLK-Gahndi kind of nationalist politician who preached "turn the other cheek" to gain the moral high ground against the Romans. He realized, after all the brutal and violent rebellions that armed resistance was pointless. The Romans, of course, were not fools and saw right through all this and promptly dispatched the threat.
lecoqsportif
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OK, wait, the Hellespont thing was a different event (according to Wiki). So I was mixed up. Heh. The Med's water levels basically just kept getting higher and higher and breached into the Black Sea. Said to be 6000 years ago. Apparently Memorial U is involved in the research - very nice.
Might have look into this...
Might have look into this...
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SundinsTooth
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Yeah the Med rise and fall is tied into that.