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JaysCyYoung said:
They've actually done a lot of good deeds too oddly enough. Hacked into pedophile rings and given local police their information, publicly shamed a Texas judge who beat his daughter, and have gotten countless animal abusers reported for their crimes.
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I was referring to the gangs they actually work for. The big boys. Those Mexican gangs are ruthless.
 
corksens said:
And if they only did that they would have my full support.

Sometimes the end justifies the means.

But I can't support hacking of the FBI, banks, CIA, ect. That's wrong.
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It's generally not "hacking" in a sense any more destructive than shutting the site down for a while. When they've released information gotten through illegal means it's almost always been stuff that should have been public in the first place.
 
I'm fine with hacking....as long as they don't steal "unhelpful" info from global warming institutions. THEN it's stealing and they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
 
HabsAddict said:
I'm fine with hacking....as long as they don't steal "unhelpful" info from global warming institutions. THEN it's stealing and they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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1. it's not anyone under the 'Anonymous' banner who did that

2. Who's bitching about that particular 'stealing'?

3. Putting the stuff exposed in the 'climategate' papers alongside most of the things exposed by Anonymous or Wikileaks is laughable.
 
Especially considering that the "climategate" "papers" were nothing more than 4 scientists discussing technical data over the course of ~2000 emails, where only two comments taken incredibly out of context created what in hindsight is a hilarious footnote in the history of climate science. The scientists involved have been cleared of wrong doing by everyone of any note who has seriously looked into the matter.
 
MindzEye said:
Especially considering that the "climategate" "papers" were nothing more than 4 scientists discussing technical data over the course of ~2000 emails, where only two comments taken incredibly out of context created what in hindsight is a hilarious footnote in the history of climate science. The scientists involved have been cleared of wrong doing by everyone of any note who has seriously looked into the matter.
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It remains a "scandal" only within oil-funded, right wing echo chambers. They are way past the point of admitting they are wrong.
 
so Korea, tell me how can an attack on Iran be a defensive maneuvre when Iran has never said it will attack your glorious friend, the state of Israel?
 
Meh, live by the sword, die by the sword. While I morally support the efforts of some hackers to bring to light information that shouldn't be hidden from public scrutiny, it's an expectation that should they get caught, they should be punished as what they're doing is illegal.

They know exactly what they get themselves into.
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
so Korea, tell me how can an attack on Iran be a defensive maneuvre when Iran has never said it will attack your glorious friend, the state of Israel?
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what??! have you been living under a f*cking rock since 1979? iran doesn't waste ANY opportunity to talk about wiping out israel. you're saying something that is wilfully false.
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
so Korea, tell me how can an attack on Iran be a defensive maneuvre when Iran has never said it will attack your glorious friend, the state of Israel?
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that's a pretty loaded statement.

iran has routinely referred to israel as its enemy, and its funding of terrorists and terrorist organizations in syria and lebanon (which have attacked israel) is well known.
 
theREALkoreaboy said:
what??! have you been living under a f*cking rock since 1979? iran doesn't waste ANY opportunity to talk about wiping out israel. you're saying something that is wilfully false.
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It is all talk, they are nothing but paper tigers.

Show me proof that Iran has plans to attack to Israel, not talk.

Oh yeah, that is right, if Nutandyahoo says they are threatened even without proof, that is enough for me.
 
msun30 said:
that's a pretty loaded statement.

iran has routinely referred to israel as its enemy, and its funding of terrorists and terrorist organizations in syria and lebanon (which have attacked israel) is well known.
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but it has never come out and said we will attack

sure if funded them but that is not much different from US/USSR funding other groups in the past, didn't mean the US/USSR was going to attack anyone.

I firmly believe Iran is nothing but a paper tiger.

I would fully support going back to the Anti-Proliferation Treaty where only five countries have nuclear weapons but we all know India/Pakistan/Israel/South Africa and who knows who else has them, how can we legitimately decide that Iran can't but turn a blind eye to the other four + countries? It's that hypocrisy that annoys the crap out of me.
 
What state in the modern world would come out ahead of time and unequivocally state that they will attack another state? You'll never hear a threat that direct.

Plus Iran knows for a fact it would get its ass handed to them.

I firmly believe Iran is nothing but a paper tiger.
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I agree with you that the threat concerning Iran as a worldwide menace is overblown, but that still doesn't mean that they don't pose a threat to regional stability and could disrupt the global economy with their OPEC posturing.
 
I would fully support going back to the Anti-Proliferation Treaty where only five countries have nuclear weapons but we all know India/Pakistan/Israel/South Africa and who knows who else has them, how can we legitimately decide that Iran can't but turn a blind eye to the other four + countries? It's that hypocrisy that annoys the crap out of me.
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Does South Africa still have nuclear weapons?

They were rumoured to have Israeli-made prototypes as a result of a Vela Incident, but nothing concrete ever emerged regarding that suspected test.
 
TheCountofMonteCristo said:
but it has never come out and said we will attack

sure if funded them but that is not much different from US/USSR funding other groups in the past, didn't mean the US/USSR was going to attack anyone.
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as if that makes a difference.

please.

I would fully support going back to the Anti-Proliferation Treaty where only five countries have nuclear weapons but we all know India/Pakistan/Israel/South Africa and who knows who else has them, how can we legitimately decide that Iran can't but turn a blind eye to the other four + countries? It's that hypocrisy that annoys the crap out of me.
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this is ridiculous schoolyard reasoning.

israel having nuclear capabilities doesn't make it ok for iran to have it.

the world shouldn't 'turn a blind eye' to israel, they should be encouraging disarmament. but that doesnt' mean they shouldn't proactively try to stop other countries... especially ones that are known to covertly fund terrorist organizations and rebel groups.... from arming.
 
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