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OT: The News Thread

Adscam only stuck to the Liberals because Martin stood up and admitted it was a scandal, while simultaneously shouting about what an outrage it was and begging Canadians to forgive the Liberals from his knees. I don't really know what he was thinking. Maybe he thought it was a good chance to shovel some dirt onto his old rival Chretien, tarnish his legacy and end up being seen himself as the guy that cleaned up Jean's mess. Instead, it pretty much blew up the Liberal party.

If Chretien had still been in charge, he'd have steadfastly insisted that they did nothing wrong, the money spent was justified and eventually once people got bored of the opposition screaming about it until they were blue in the face, he'd switch the narrative to something else---just like Harper's done with all the "scandals" the opposition has tried to pin on him.
 
LeafGm said:
Adscam only stuck to the Liberals because Martin stood up and admitted it was a scandal, while simultaneously shouting about what an outrage it was and begging Canadians to forgive the Liberals from his knees. I don't really know what he was thinking. Maybe he thought it was a good chance to shovel some dirt onto his old rival Chretien, tarnish his legacy and end up being seen himself as the guy that cleaned up Jean's mess. Instead, it pretty much blew up the Liberal party.

If Chretien had still been in charge, he'd have steadfastly insisted that they did nothing wrong, the money spent was justified and eventually once people got bored of the opposition screaming about it until they were blue in the face, he'd switch the narrative to something else---just like Harper's done with all the "scandals" the opposition has tried to pin on him.
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bingo, he would have asked the opposition if they wanted Canada to break up, would have put the Conservatives on the defensive by saying, see they are in bed with the separatists and are against Canada etc
 
corksens said:
http://www.leadnow.ca/en/vision

Haven't had a funnier read in a while.

PS. You can attribute about 99% of "complaints" about robocalls to this left-wing website. What a bunch of loons.
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i heard an interview with the guy who runs this site. He was claiming that the organization is non partisan. He may believe that , but when you read the form letter to click and send,try as it might, it sure doesn't sound non partisan. As well the list of advisors to the site are not exacty conservative friendly. I don't see too many noted Conservatives in that list.



Advisors

Leadnow.ca has a growing network of advisers who help the organization better understand politics, policy and movement building on a case-by-case basis. We are currently looking to expand our advisory network to better represent a broad range of Canada's political spectrum.

•Alex Michalos – Emeritus Professor (Political Science), University of Northern British Columbia; Author of 22 books; Editor in Chief for the Journal of Business Ethics; Director of Research for the Canadian Index of Well-Being; Member of the Order of Canada
•Alnoor Ladha – Director of Strategy, Purpose.com (building 21st century movements); Formerly at Ogilvy & Mather, J. Walter Thompson and Mother
•Ben Brandzel – Int'l practitioner & trainer in online organizing; Former Director of New Media for Barack Obama, Founding Adviser/Board Member of 38Degrees.org.uk and Avaaz.org, Advocacy Director for MoveOn.org
•Beth Wilson – Managing Partner, KPMG (Community Leadership), Board member of National Ballet of Canada & Cabinet member of United Way; one of Canada's "100 most powerful women"
•Ian Capstick – Owner, MediaStyle.ca; Former Press Secretary to Jack Layton, Frequent Media Commentator
•Jim Stanford – Economist, Canadian Auto Workers; Frequent Media Commentator
•Judy Rebick – Journalist, author, political activist and feminist; Founding Publisher Rabble.ca, Former Chair in Social Justice and Democracy at Ryerson University
•Julia Pope – Communications director for a company developing asthma therapeutics; Background in regional electoral politics and journalism; Participant in the Canadian Center for Policy Alternatives’ 2012 NextUp leadership program.
•Robin Sears – Partner, Navigator Ltd (Strategic Communications); Former Nat'l Campaign Director, NDP
•Ross McGregor – Director, Tides Canada & Waterfront Toronto; Former President & CEO of Ketchum Canada & Toronto Region Research Alliance
•Susan McLennan – President & Founder, Babble On Communications
•Vicky Husband – Long-time Environmental Activist; Former Conservation Chair, Sierra Club of BC; Member of the Order of Canada & Order of BC
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http://leadnow.ca/en/about
 
•Judy Rebick – Journalist, author, political activist and feminist; Founding Publisher Rabble.ca, Former Chair in Social Justice and Democracy at Ryerson University
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According to the FBI, you're looking at Sabu, the head of LulzSec, and the de facto King of Anonymous—easily the most notorious and influential hacker alive today. One thing: he just turned in his people to the police.

The name Sabu should be familiar: as part of LulzSec, a potent offshoot of Anonymous, he masterminded legendary attacks against the CIA, FBI, Sony, and numerous other corporate and government targets. He was their Captain Hook. That was before. Fox News reports the shadowy hack deity is not only confirmed to be unemployed 28-year-old New Yorker Hector Xavier Monsegur, but that Sabu has been "collaborating with the government for months," leading to a string of arrests around the world today.

It's unclear how many will be dragged down with Sabu's nine months of federal collaborating, but it's safe to assume whatever vestiges of LulzSec remained are toast—we'll know for sure when all of the indictments are unsealed.

And according to Fox, the dragnet was thick:

"On August 15, 2011 Monsegur pleaded guilty to more than ten charges relating to his hacking activity. In the following few weeks, he worked almost daily out of FBI offices, helping the feds identify and ultimately take down the other high-level members of LulzSec and Anonymous, sources said."
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/mar/06/lulzsec-sabu-working-for-us-fbi
 
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Seems like a typical story to me. Petty criminals snitching on each other to serve their own interests.

Is it the snitching that is disgusting? Or is the crime that they are accused of? I mean would you be upset if he turned in a pedo ring?
 
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It's pretty disturbing for unit to suggest that it's disgusting for the guy to "rat" out other hackers who have attacked countless legitimate sites.
 
Artnes said:
Watched an episode of Decoded last night about these guys. Those beaners are crazy
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They've actually done a lot of good deeds too oddly enough. Hacked into pedophile rings and given local police their information, publicly shamed a Texas judge who beat his daughter, and have gotten countless animal abusers reported for their crimes.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
They've actually done a lot of good deeds too oddly enough. Hacked into pedophile rings and given local police their information, publicly shamed a Texas judge who beat his daughter, and have gotten countless animal abusers reported for their crimes.
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And if they only did that they would have my full support.

Sometimes the end justifies the means.

But I can't support hacking of the FBI, banks, CIA, ect. That's wrong.
 
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