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OT: The News Thread

Speaking of immigration...

On Friday, after the U.K. voted 52 per cent in favour of bouncing from the European Union, many internet users began to search on Google “How to move to Canada.”

According to Google Trends, the term was searched most frequently in Wales, followed by England and Scotland. “How to move to Canada from UK,” “move to Canada from UK,” and “Can I move to Canada?” were also popular search terms.

Between the American refugees fleeing Trump and now refugees from Britain, I think we might have to build a wall.
 
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...welfare-drug-testing-program?CMP=share_btn_tw


Not a single welfare recipient or applicant has tested positive for banned drugs in a Michigan pilot program, part of the growing practice of screening beneficiaries of government assistance for drug abuse.

The program, which ends on 30 September, may face renewed scrutiny in the wake of Wisconsin congresswoman Gwen Moore’s proposed legislation to force taxpayers with more than $150,000 of itemized deductions to submit to the IRS a clear drug test. Under the legislation, applicants who refuse the test would be required to take the significantly lower standard deduction when filing their taxes.

Moore’s office said drug-testing welfare recipients and applicants is “blatantly unacceptable” and pushes a stereotype that impoverished individuals are more susceptible to substance abuse than other, wealthier individuals who are beneficiaries of government programs.

“Congresswoman Moore finds it shameful that states like Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida continue to push these discriminatory policies under the guise of fiscal responsibility,” Moore’s communications director, Eric Harris, told the Guardian.

“Drug-testing struggling families and individuals as a condition of eligibility for vital, life-saving social services is blatantly unacceptable and the insinuation that those battling poverty are somehow more susceptible to substance abuse is as absurd as it is offensive.”

0 fer 303. Data over feels, please.
 
Maybe they drop to 6th,falling behind france, but I don't see Italy or brazil passing them.

Also, it's not me setting this up. When you watch the news, every group under the sun was telling the British people to vote to stay in, that their concerns didn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

I just see a lot of irony here.

a) the average British conservative is in-favor of free market policies, and generally in favor of free trade.
b) the EU is an attempt to instill those policies across the whole European region.
c) British people lose jobs in certain areas due to the Eurozone functioning as one big free market...
d) the same people who believe in those policies now want to leave because some Poles "stole" their plumbing jobs.
 
I just see a lot of irony here.

a) the average British conservative is in-favor of free market policies, and generally in favor of free trade.
b) the EU is an attempt to instill those policies across the whole European region.
c) British people lose jobs in certain areas due to the Eurozone functioning as one big free market...
d) the same people who believe in those policies now want to leave because some Poles "stole" their plumbing jobs.

I see no irony.

The Euro zone a dysfunctional mess, infringing on the sovereignty of member states. A bunch of unelected bureaucrats telling national governments how to run their affairs.

There was an interesting article in the national post the other day on how how the brits voted to be more like canada with a wary but close relationship to the United States. There is probably a economic argument on how we would benifit from a close union with the United states, how we lose out on billions by not being more closely integrated with Washington, but that we don't care, because if that's the price of being Canadians then so be it.

Yet the brits do the same in regards to Europe and the world collectively craps their pants and suddenly Britain is a island of small minded people.

That's just not the case. The Eurozone is a soup sandwich. The same people who were telling the British not to leave are the same people who said they were idiots for not adopting the euro. How did that turn out? The same idiots who told them not to leave are the same idiots who failed to see what open borders would do when waves of refugees start landing on European soil.

From Greece to economic malaise to the refugee crisis the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels have proven one thing. They are utterly incompetent when it comes to dealing with a crisis. Yet you want me to believe that these unelected bureaucrats in Brussels knows what best the people of Britain than a elected MP in London?

The only reasons to stay in that dysfunctional bloc were reasons of cold hard cash. Kind of like the reason a gold digger stays with a abusive rich spouse.

Screw that, good job Britain, and if there is any justice for the people of Europe, the land of freedom and democracy the brits inflicted a mortal wound to this undemocratic cumbersome joke of a organization.
 
The Euro zone a dysfunctional mess, infringing on the sovereignty of member states.

The same people that think the Euro zone is dysfunctional, and that it's not democratic, want a lot of the same policies instituted in Britain. That is ironic.
 
The one thing I'll say about the public fall out that gives me a bit of a pause, is the whining from the gilded class. I'm not one who tends to hate the wealthy on reflex, but when you see so many of them crying about a referendum results, signing the same tune, on the same key, it's enough to make a guy think a bit deeper about the impact whether or not this is really bad for the working class, or just bad for the gilded class.
 
ie Policies that lead to low wages, and screw the little guy.
Having the bureaucrats in Brussels decide that for England is akin to having the Senate dictate how the house of Commons is run, made up of Americans Mexicans Cubans and Jamaicans and run out of Barbados.

That would be batshit crazy for Canadians, yet it was the reality for the British.

So even if what you say is true, and I don't think for a moment it is, but even if it were, if the brits decide among themselves that's how things should be run, ok. If Brussels dictate that's how things will be run, not on.
 
More like you and dependent, old, and angry British people who have no clue about how the world works.

Lol, don't know how the world works...

Coming from a guy who doesn't have a good thing to say about the European Union. Coming from a guy who would no doubt hate if canada were in such a organization.

Talk about damn by faint praise.

Seriously, I have stated multitudes of reasons why I hate the EU and how's it's run. What in the world do you like about it?
 
The fact that you think "sovereignty" still actually exists in any meaningful way tells me you are missing the point.

Just came across this, but I think we are missing a big point here. This was just a referendum in Britain. If referendums were held across the continent how many would vote to leave? More than just the British.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/world/0625-fo-eu

The Leave side’s victory in Thursday’s EU referendum, a result predicted by few pundits and fewer polls, devastated the British pound and shocked markets worldwide. But it also sparked a greater fear — of contagion and collapse. The very idea of a single Europe, a union growing closer, treaty-by-treaty and year-by-year, has now been shaken. If the United Kingdom does leave the EU, some wonder, who might be next? And if others do abandon Brussels, how long can the union itself survive?

Those aren’t specious fears. Euro-skepticism is on the rise in many parts of the continent. According to a recent poll by the Pew Research Center, support for the EU fell by 17 percentage points in France last year, 16 percentage points in Spain and eight percentage points in Germany. Among residents of 10 EU countries surveyed by Pew, only 51 per cent viewed the union favourably. An overwhelming majority of those surveyed, meanwhile, disapproved of the EU’s handling of the refugee crisis. And a majority or plurality in nine of the 10 countries told Pew they wanted some powers returned from Brussels to their national governments.

The factors driving that discontent are economic, political and sometimes inchoate. The refugee crisis and the lingering hangover from the 2008 financial collapse have both played significant roles. But so too has the EU’s own unshakeable image as a faceless, meddling bureaucracy, said Jeffrey Kopstein, a professor of political science at the University of California, Irvine. “Somehow it’s been sold as a project that’s distant and non-democratic,” he said.
 
As long as these Americans can speak English I'm fine.
Why is Canada allowing immigrants who can't speak English. How can you work in this country?
 
The one thing I'll say about the public fall out that gives me a bit of a pause, is the whining from the gilded class. I'm not one who tends to hate the wealthy on reflex, but when you see so many of them crying about a referendum results, signing the same tune, on the same key, it's enough to make a guy think a bit deeper about the impact whether or not this is really bad for the working class, or just bad for the gilded class.

+1

There was an article from Bloomberg on Friday afternoon that said the 15 wealthiest Britons lost 5.5 billion pounds on the Friday exchange.
 
Meh. None of this matters to the super rich. They live in a parallel universe. This might mean a bit more paperwork for their lawyers and accountants to make sure the property rights for the villa in the south of France are sound and that it doesn't create an unexpected tax liability.
 
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